[CGTRWK]

No kidding. Liberals come out against trashing nature and to some people, that makes turning the world into one big dump a conservative value. It isn't.

Reflexive opposition to the message bearer instead of a position that stands on its own merits should be left to Dingy Harry and the rest of the congressional socialists.

[Ace of Spades]

It's too bad. The eco-nazis and their antics have made us numb to the fact that there are true environmental concerns in the world. I just got home from Bermuda, one of the last places on Earth with an undisturbed reef system, a true treasure in this day and age.

[cogitator]

Thanks for the second.

[proud_yank]

No kidding. Liberals come out against trashing nature and to some people, that makes turning the world into one big dump a conservative value. It isn't.

Reflexive opposition to the message bearer instead of a position that stands on its own merits should be left to Dingy Harry and the rest of the congressional socialists.

I think that conservation, and environmental stewardship are important values, and conservative values too.

The problem I have with the 'environmental movement' is that it has become a 'socialist movement'. These people, especially the UN, use environmental matters as a means to power and control. It is quite obvious with Kyoto too, which was well established as a wealth redistribution scheme that would do nothing to reduce emissions. The UN's very own IPCC is a political body, not a scientific one. I do not give them any credibility at all, as it is likely something very vague and designed only to benefit that group.

Furthermore, many of the policies put forward by environmentalists generally do much to harm people, and produce a negative impact environmentally.

There is nothing I love more than spending my time outside, and you can look on my FR page at some of the things I enjoy doing. Anymore, listening to environmentalists does little more than cause a migraine.