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Oppose 'deviant' love, Pope urges
The Daily Mail ^ | October 20, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 10/19/2006 11:48:26 PM PDT by MadIvan

Pope Benedict today urged Italian Catholics to defend the traditional family and in an apparent reference to gay marriage said they should oppose any moves to legalise "weak and deviant" unions.

The Pope made his comments in a long, wide ranging speech to a national convention of Italy's politically powerful Roman Catholic Church in the northern Italian city of Verona, famous as the setting for Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet."

While he did not specifically mention gay marriage, thousands of listeners at the fairgrounds in Verona's outskirts strongly applauded the two parts of his speech about the family and "other forms of unions."

He urged them to fight "with determination...the risk of political and legislative decisions that contradict fundamental values and anthropological and ethical principles rooted in human nature."

The Pope said they had to defend "the family based on matrimony, opposing the introduction of laws on other forms of unions which would only destabilise it and obscure its special character and its social role, which has no substitute."

In another section of his speech, the Pope made another apparent reference to homosexual marriage, stating that the Church had to say "'no' to weak and deviant forms of love."

He said the Church wanted instead to say "'yes' to authentic love, to the reality of man as he was created by God."

Since his election in April 2005, Benedict has firmly backed the Roman Catholic Church's strong opposition to moves to legalise gay marriage or to legally recognise unwed heterosexual couples.

The centre-left coalition of Prime Minister Romano Prodi has promised some form of recognition for unmarried couples but has so far stopped short of openly supporting gay marriage.

But some leftist parties in the coalition, which ranges from Catholics to communists, back greater rights for homosexuals, including marriage.

Some in the centre left support a legal recognition similar to that in France, which in 1999 granted all couples the right to form civil unions.

Civil unions entitle them to joint social security, limited inheritance rights and other benefits.

Italy's Catholic Church opposes this, saying it will weaken traditional marriage and the traditional family.

Prodi, a practicing Catholic, was due to attend a papal mass at the Verona stadium later on Thursday.

In his address to the Catholic convention, the Pope was also applauded when he said the Church had to continue to defend "life in all its phases, from conception until natural death."

He said the Church did not want to be "a political agent" but wanted to help shape social policy.

The Pope backed the Italian Church's demands for more state funding for Catholic schools, saying that they were still subjected to "ancient prejudices," that were unjustifiable.


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Viva Papa!

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/19/2006 11:48:26 PM PDT by MadIvan
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2 posted on 10/19/2006 11:48:40 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
When I see a gay priest who has molested children tied to a cross planted upside down and on fire in front of his church, I'll know that the church is practicing what it preaches. Until then, it's all words.
3 posted on 10/20/2006 12:34:42 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: Herakles
When I see a gay priest who has molested children tied to a cross planted upside down and on fire in front of his church, I'll know that the church is practicing what it preaches. Until then, it's all words.

I hope you don't, but someday you may see something like that in hell.

4 posted on 10/20/2006 12:58:24 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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Pingout tomorrow.


5 posted on 10/20/2006 1:23:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Herakles

Ahhh, yes. The concept of redemption...

Somehow I don't think you'd approve of the idea of the Inquisition, but that's exactly what you're going for here.

Sorry, I'm not a Catholic, but what you're calling for isn't at all what the church preaches. And nor are the actions of the hpriest you mention.


6 posted on 10/20/2006 2:06:13 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: MadIvan

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7 posted on 10/20/2006 2:35:21 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Herakles
When I see a gay priest who has molested children tied to a cross planted upside down and on fire in front of his church, I'll know that the church is practicing what it preaches. Until then, it's all words

I think they pray to statues too.

8 posted on 10/20/2006 2:41:57 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MadIvan; All

Colorado apparently has a referendum to legalize homosexual based marriage in the form of civil unions by calling it "domestic partnerships".

IOW exactly what the pope is citing.

However the MSM is not mentioning the efforts of the homsexual advocates.


9 posted on 10/20/2006 3:02:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I think they pray to statues too.

Sounds like something an islamist might say!!

10 posted on 10/20/2006 3:06:40 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; johniegrad

I think Johnie's tongue was firmly in his cheek.


11 posted on 10/20/2006 3:41:16 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: jjm2111
Might be, but there are a number of anti-Catholic Christians who say or believe the same thing.
12 posted on 10/20/2006 3:51:52 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: MadIvan

I'm a Protestant, but...Viva Papa indeed!


13 posted on 10/20/2006 7:10:39 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Herakles
When I see a gay priest who has molested children tied to a cross planted upside down and on fire in front of his church, I'll know that the church is practicing what it preaches. Until then, it's all words.

Trasnlation: "Even though I'm a Freeper and should know better, I accept the drive by media portrayal of the Catholic Church as gospel truth. It's not smart, but it works for me."

14 posted on 10/20/2006 7:18:45 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do have never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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15 posted on 10/20/2006 7:21:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MadIvan
Prodi, a practicing Catholic, was due to attend a papal mass

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I wonder what he's practicing?

16 posted on 10/20/2006 7:29:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MadIvan

This headline "Oppose 'deviant' love, Pope urges", is, let's just say strange at best. Love is NOT deviant!!!!


17 posted on 10/20/2006 7:32:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: MadIvan

I've actually been hoping for some deviant love. Not with males mind you, but a bit of deviant love sounds groovy to me.


18 posted on 10/20/2006 7:35:44 AM PDT by 12B
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To: Herakles
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Herakles and Mad Ivan,


When I see a gay priest who has molested children tied to a cross planted upside down and on fire in front of his church, I'll know that the church is practicing what it preaches. Until then, it's all words.


I'm a protestant Christian ... who's had the pleasure of knowing many wonderful Roman Catholics ...

Quite frankly, I can't imagine the Total Shame a (genuine) Roman Catholic must feel after a DECADES old parade of gay sex scandals exposed in their church ... while NO ONE in the Vactican really gives a Shiite.


Patton-at-Bastogne

"May God and His Angels Guard Your Sacred Throne, and May You Long Become It."

Shakespeare, Henry V, Act I, Scene II


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19 posted on 10/20/2006 7:37:56 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: 12B
I believe that falls under the "too much information" category.

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 10/20/2006 7:38:46 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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