Potheads, puritans and pragmatists: Two marijuana initiatives put drug warriors on the defensive

Townhall ^ | October 18, 2006 | Jacob Sullum

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[eleni121]

I don't want THC users living next door to me or my kids. Or anywhere in my neighborhood.

So, if deluded legalizers cannot find a way to banish these dangerous fools to some cave, then maintain its status of illegality nation wide.

[ROTB]

I was having a conversation today about someone who's "out of it" all the time due to a past marijuana habit.

It really does fry your brain, whether we should allow people the "freedom" to fry their brains ...

[glorgau]

To sum up, smoking pot is less respectable than a drunken gambling spree followed by a visit to a hooker,

LOL - I've done all of the above. ;-)

[USNBandit]

To sum up, smoking pot is less respectable than a drunken gambling spree followed by a visit to a hooker

That's not the issue at all. The issue is nobody wants to pay good money for a hooker that is stoned......I kid, I kid. Don't ban me.

In all seriousness the last time this came up the pro-dopers were dealt a blow right before the election. A journalist from the Las Vegas newspaper got killed by a driver who was stoned out of his gourd.

The same argument was made a couple years ago about the marriage protection act that was placed on the ballot. Nevada is the easiest state to get married, the easiest to get a divorce, legal gambling in every public venue outside schools, churches, and public libraries, legalized brothels; and now they want to protect marriage. Pretty good argument, but it still passed.

[gcruse]

"It really does fry your brain, whether we should allow people the "freedom" to fry their brains ..."

... while we 'allow' them the freedom to calcify their livers, cancerfy their lungs, and tan their perfect skins to carcenoma. Not to mention eat until they resemble Jabba the Hutt. Why pick on a homegrown vegetable?

[FreedomNeocon]

"I was having a conversation today about someone who's "out of it" all the time due to a past marijuana habit"

Thats funny I also deal with people so "out of it" every single day and almost every one of them have never touched the stuff... /shrug

[Moonman62]

If it's just a vegetable, then smoke squash, and shut up already about pot.

[SampleMan]

For those who advocate legalization on practical grounds, NOT constitutional grounds, what outcome of legalization would constitute a failure in your book?

[gcruse]

Uhm, this thread's about pot. If you can't even handle reading about pot, maybe you shouldn't be on the thread.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

So, if deluded legalizers cannot find a way to banish these dangerous fools to some cave, then maintain its status of illegality nation wide.

I think mandatory drug testing as an OSHA standard for all employment (including politicians) would take care of it.

In fact, mandatory drug testing for all employees of 501(c) tax-exempt corporations by the Internal Revenue Code as a condition for "non-profit" status would have all the leftist front groups fold overnight...

[Tolsti]

Yeah, a lot of people are out of it. And not all admit it necessarily that it's due to pot use.

Trust me, pot use makes people lose theirselves. Even a relatively minor usage changes a person for the worse.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I think mandatory drug testing as an OSHA standard for all employment (including politicians) would take care of it.

Mandatory drug testing for all employees of 501(c) tax-exempt corporations by the Internal Revenue Code as a condition for "non-profit" status would have all the leftist front groups fold overnight...

[SampleMan]

I meant to address this question for general discussion. My apologies for double posting.

For those who advocate legalization on practical grounds, NOT constitutional grounds, what outcome of legalization would constitute a failure in your book?

[NurdlyPeon]

This is me, not posting on this thread, because I'm so tired of hearing all the pro and con arguments for and against legalizing pot. In fact, I'm actually not even here, and you're not even reading this.

[Tolsti]

I'll tell you what they want. To be able to get high easier without legal hassles and for cheaper. QED.

[microgood]

I think mandatory drug testing as an OSHA standard for all employment (including politicians) would take care of it.

I've noticed there are two kinds of conservatives on this forum. The first group believes in the founding documents and the republic and the constitution and freedom.

The second group believe in mob rule just like the liberals but just have a different agenda. You belong in the second group, and you have more in common with the liberals than those who love freedom. You are willing to give up the 4th Amendment because you do not like potsmokers. You do not deserve freedom.