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To: SampleMan
For those who advocate legalization on practical grounds, NOT constitutional grounds, what outcome of legalization would constitute a failure in your book?

That is your post. Those are your words. If, in response to the question "what outcome of legalization would constitute a failure", you receive a list of outcomes that the poster believes would constitute a failure, you have received a direct response, not a dodge. I do not know how that fact could be any more clear.

If you're still unsure how, exactly, my list of undesired outcomes is the direct response to your question of a failure of legalization on practical grounds, think about the question in reverse: what are the practical problems caused by having marijuana illegal? Those are the problems that one who advocates legalization from a purely practical perspective would hope to solve. Therefore, if those problems were not solved by legalization, that legalization would have been a failure from a practical perspective. And that is the exact answer I presented to you, which you rejected out of hand, presumably because you did not in fact want an answer, but merely wanted to bait someone into arguing over your anti-marijuana views.

96 posted on 10/24/2006 7:13:54 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Turbopilot

I asked "...what outcome of legalization...". Your answer did not address outcomes of legalization, but rather failures to legalize.

I get your point, but it didn't address my question. If I asked, "What outcome of overeating would you consider to be a failure?" It doesn't answer the question to say, "Not getting to eat as much as you want."

When I qualify that it would be "legal", then that is the premise of the question. You can move on from that point.


100 posted on 10/24/2006 7:29:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: Turbopilot
because you did not in fact want an answer, but merely wanted to bait someone into arguing over your anti-marijuana views.

It was because I was granting that legalization would be real legalization, and was seeking an answer based on that premise.

But if you want to talk about the possible failures of actually implementing legalization that's fine. Let's not argue about each others semantics. Would you really consider it a failure of the idea of drug legalization if people continued to have their homes searched with knock-less warrants? I wouldn't. If there is a problem with the execution of warrants (and there are some) it is a separate issue from drug legalization. I can guarantee that mistaken or overzealous searches will continue after legalization, so why would you consider that a failure of legalization?

101 posted on 10/24/2006 7:38:21 AM PDT by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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