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Iraq PM bristles over U.S. raid on Shi'ite militia
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-10-25T123942Z_01_GEO743062_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ.xml&src=rss ^

Posted on 10/25/2006 6:24:56 AM PDT by zippy the razor

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's Shi'ite prime minister pledged on Wednesday to crack down on illegal militias but criticized a U.S. raid on a Shi'ite militia stronghold that killed at least four people.

A day after U.S. officials assured Americans the prime minister had agreed "timelines" to help end sectarian militia violence, Nuri al-Maliki used his own news conference to dismiss talk of any "timetable" for action.

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1 posted on 10/25/2006 6:24:57 AM PDT by zippy the razor
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To: zippy the razor

I think its time either Iraq got a new PM who is not supportive of the radical fundamentalists, or we just walk out of that stink hole. It is time for a decision.


2 posted on 10/25/2006 6:28:10 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: zippy the razor

So ask us to leave, Maliki. Go ahead, I dare you.


3 posted on 10/25/2006 6:29:20 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: zippy the razor

"had agreed "timelines" to help end sectarian militia violence,"

Doe the timetable include "right now"?


4 posted on 10/25/2006 6:29:48 AM PDT by angkor
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To: zippy the razor

This guy is new to the global political stage. He'll figure it out or he'll disappear, it is really that simple.


5 posted on 10/25/2006 6:29:57 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: EagleUSA

What we need to do is to take out his boy Sadr and invite him to make a choice.


6 posted on 10/25/2006 6:31:48 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: zippy the razor

Interestingly, my post from the
Muslim paper Al Jazeera was posted
immediately prior to yours from
Reuters. I suggest that BOTH
those newspapers insert their own
editorial comments inside their
stories, fusing fact and fiction.


7 posted on 10/25/2006 6:32:23 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: EagleUSA

BINGO! I'm fed up with the way this guy is playing. It's time he either grows up or gets the hell outta the way for people who can handle this. Treading water serves no one.


8 posted on 10/25/2006 6:32:37 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: zippy the razor

The government, in large part, is in bed with the militias. If not directly, then through massive infiltration by militia members into government positions. They do generally promote stability, which is why we turned a blind eye for so long. Now we're seeing that sometimes stability comes with a price.


9 posted on 10/25/2006 6:35:43 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: rhombus
So ask us to leave, Maliki. Go ahead, I dare you.

Bingo.

10 posted on 10/25/2006 6:35:47 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: zippy the razor
We can't go into an area, secure it, clean it up and the leave, expecting it to remain free of weapons and militia members. We need to handle it like we finally did Falusia (sp?). Take control of the entire city, and then clean it up, and remain in control on that city, until the locals are ready to provide security on their own.

We arrest or kill a few militia members and more take their place. It's like killing cockroaches. There's 10 more hidden somewhere for every 1 you kill. So secure the city, search and raid every inch of it and turn over a clean city to the locals. If it takes 30,000 troops to do that, then do it. Quit messing around. Problems won't go away unless you confront them head on and stop them.

11 posted on 10/25/2006 6:40:21 AM PDT by Tactical
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To: EagleUSA
As Saddam used to say, it takes a real SOB to run Iraq.

I certainly agree that Saddam had to go, but now the question remains, can Iraq ever manage itself?

In fact, can a peaceful democracy or republic exist in any islamic area where violent hardliners wreak havoc as a means of pushing their agenda.

12 posted on 10/25/2006 6:41:53 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies

"I certainly agree that Saddam had to go, but now the question remains, can Iraq ever manage itself?"



the leaders they have chosen leave me to wonder if it matters


13 posted on 10/25/2006 6:48:33 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Dark Skies

In fact, can a peaceful democracy or republic exist in any islamic area where violent hardliners wreak havoc as a means of pushing their agenda.
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A very good question. One that Washington seems to be blind to. It really distills down to "do all the people really want it?" Will they support a single Constitutional government that takes precedent over a religion running a country fostered by a bunch of warring mullahs? Frankly, based on our history there, I doubt it.

It is time that Washington draws the line. The Iraqis MUST stand on their own two feet. Eighteen months is not going to make much difference. We did all the heavy lifting for the Iraqis -- if they want a modern, Constitutional government, then let them stand for it now.


14 posted on 10/25/2006 6:51:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Tactical
I couldn't agree more. Baghdad should be placed under martial law,given 30 days. No vehicles move unless they carry food or medical essentials & those must be inspected before entering. All weapons must be surrendered. Any one seen with weapons who is not in uniform is shot on the spot. Any one found in uniform who is not a member of the coalition or Iraq military will be shot. Security is what's needed now not democracy. The people need to understand that democracy is earned. If you know your neighbor has weapons & you fail to turn them in, You are as guilty as them & should be held to account. If it doesn't work in 30 days, then 60, then 90. Whatever, this city must be controlled!
15 posted on 10/25/2006 6:54:07 AM PDT by JackHawk ("Some Times; War is the answer!")
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To: zippy the razor; EagleUSA; rhombus

Al Reuters and Al Jazeera are enemy propagandists, so always bear that in mind.


16 posted on 10/25/2006 7:00:20 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Time to let the Iraqi-American Army to stage a coup, and get rid of Maliki and his phony democracy.

Maliki is merely Sadr's and Iran's stooge.


Dump him now.


17 posted on 10/25/2006 7:01:53 AM PDT by floridareader1
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To: floridareader1

I don't think that is the case. If you read what he said, its not as ridiculous as the headline.

Nevertheless, he's no Allawi. We need him back in power.


18 posted on 10/25/2006 7:03:32 AM PDT by pissant
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To: zippy the razor

Stick a fork in him. He's done!


19 posted on 10/25/2006 7:03:45 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: zippy the razor
Nuri al-Maliki is a pussy
20 posted on 10/25/2006 7:04:10 AM PDT by SMM48
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