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1 posted on 10/26/2006 6:18:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Homeland Security Office = GESTAPO


2 posted on 10/26/2006 6:20:53 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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Sounds like the border corruption problem extends deep into DHS.

Not surprising at all ~

5 posted on 10/26/2006 6:31:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Well, where is the respect for U.S. law ???? There is none, so maybe they will respect a gun?? Washington refuses to do its job, so who will ??


6 posted on 10/26/2006 6:32:19 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Stinks! Smells like typical CYA political BS.


7 posted on 10/26/2006 6:32:49 PM PDT by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
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What do they mean giving immunity to a confessed drug runner AGAINST our border patrol. I smell a drug money payoff and think an investigation should concentrate on following the money.

Excuse my naivete, but if the drug runner was running away and told to halt, but kept on running, isn't that reason enough to shoot him in the buttocks? They did not kill the guy--just stopped him. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I also believe the druggie's kinsman that he never ran drugs without a gun.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!

vaudine


8 posted on 10/26/2006 6:35:26 PM PDT by vaudine
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Poe said it is unclear what type of evidence the OIG will provide against the agents and wonders why it wasn't used in their trial.

Sounds like the OIG was either withholding evidence or is unwittingly launching a torpedo at this case.
10 posted on 10/26/2006 6:43:42 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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12 posted on 10/26/2006 10:45:11 PM PDT by gubamyster
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DHS has such a hard on to smear these guys yet will not touch Rene Sanchez. Border Patrol Agent Rene Sanchez is a life long friend of the smuggler and conducted an unauthorized investigation into the case, met with the smuggler just before the shooting and is suspected of being dirty by at least one other Border Patrol Agent. If DHS is so up in arms about corruption then WITF did they give SBPA McClaren and Alvarez only five years in prison for working for a smuggling organization.


14 posted on 10/27/2006 1:52:30 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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I personally know many BP, CBP, ICE, and all the other catchy acronyms inspectors, agents and what have you are called these days- I worked for US Customs for 10 years and dealt with them & BP both a bunch- many are my close friends. That said I have a few comments.

There are a few loose cannons out there to be sure; as there are in all jobs of this type. They are few and far between and those I thought were the gung-ho "hot dogs" did not last long. It becomes obvious to everyone who they are pretty quickly. These guys both had good records before this incident and I just don't believe they ever said they were out to shoot or get Mexicans. No one says that, it is not even an inside joke or anything else to say that type of thing. Anyone that gets very far in the hiring process knows better than to say anything like that, even the "hot dogs" know better than to say this type of thing. I call BS on this for sure.

I have no knowledge about what happened the day of this incident; I tend to believe these two are innocent of just shooting at the smuggler without cause. They may have made some procedural errors or what ever- but I don't think they committed criminal acts. I think what ever happened that day was blown up bigger than life by complaints from Mexico and higher ups in BP dashing to cover their own behinds.

Any LE officer with a good record doesn't just wake up one day and decide to go shoot innocents- that just doesn't happen. I think politics is to blame for these two men getting railroaded.


21 posted on 10/27/2006 3:14:19 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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