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1 posted on 11/04/2006 1:22:36 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777

This is quite misleading since it isn't really the military asking for his resignation at all, but that doesn't stop Fox and others from running with the story today. But...what real affect will this have on voters? Since that is their obvious goal.


2 posted on 11/04/2006 1:24:43 PM PST by BonnieJ
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Pass it on--this editorial view is very misleading and does not represent the conservative, majority military point of view.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 1:27:28 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Jay777

These "Military Times" mags are also screaming socialists from what I recall of seeing some of their past articles posted. They are far from even the usual biased standards of the MSM..... yes, the attempt is to make it seem like all the major "military" publications are calling for Rumsfeld's head, when in fact these are really, as you note, ONE civilian publication, owned by Gannet.... and (as I note) dominated by raving leftists. In reality, this is about as significant as Charlie Rangel making the same statement, but the MSM is trying to milk it.....


5 posted on 11/04/2006 1:28:00 PM PST by Enchante ("WE SUPPORT THOSE WHO ARE NOT AS SMART AS JON VICHY CARY!")
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To: Jay777
Actually heard that it was a Gannett publication just one time early early this morning. Just once and now the rest of the media whores are conveniently leaving that part out.

As for the mal-cons. To hell with them.

6 posted on 11/04/2006 1:28:25 PM PST by OldFriend (JOHN F. KERRY, BETRAYING OUR TROOPS AGAIN)
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To: Jay777
Used to be many military folks at the NCO and higher levels subscribed to them.
I've even advertised in the Army Times.
Never again, but I guess, according to Jon Cary, I'm to stupid to understand their enlightened articles anyway.
9 posted on 11/04/2006 1:29:42 PM PST by ASA Vet (3.03)
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Yeah sure. So the socialist, seditious weasles drop one final bomb over the weekend so that no radio talk shows are around to debunk it (Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz).

So with all the networks / newspapers playing this up, it'll be entrenched in people's minds before Monday.


10 posted on 11/04/2006 1:30:23 PM PST by peteram
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The Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times

...had better be ready for mass subscription cancellations. Can't believe they're idiot enough to want to join the Bush-bashing MSM in securing their own extinction.

12 posted on 11/04/2006 1:31:01 PM PST by JennysCool
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Ug, horrible formatting on that blog. Each line is about one word long, making it tedious to read. Nevertheless, I suspect I share their sentiments. The various Times papers are no longer the papers they once were--we haven't subscribed for decades now. This editorial was despicable, and despite their claims that they didn't want to influence the elections--they sure did put the editorial out just one day before the election. Scum. Pure scum.


14 posted on 11/04/2006 1:33:07 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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bump


16 posted on 11/04/2006 1:34:33 PM PST by lowbridge (Got my own set of keys to the Rovian Weather and Earthquake Machine.)
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To: Jay777

Great work.


18 posted on 11/04/2006 1:40:16 PM PST by PghBaldy (This hominid named Kerry annoys me.)
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To: Jay777

The Army Times is a weak joke compared to The Officer.


19 posted on 11/04/2006 1:42:18 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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It is disingenious of the media to treat this paper like it is an arm of the military. Here's an example of their work:

"Sex slaves and the U.S. military " At a time when the U.S. State Department and the United Nations labor to combat the international trafficking in women, the U.S. military supports a flourishing trade in sex slaves in South Korea.
http://www.armytimes.com/channel.php?GQID=292236#SEXSLAVES


21 posted on 11/04/2006 1:45:38 PM PST by PghBaldy (This hominid named Kerry annoys me.)
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This is one issue that needs to stay on the shelves.


23 posted on 11/04/2006 1:48:18 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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When I heard this story, i knew there was something to it. That Catherine Harriage of FauxNews, and all the others are pounding this story like there was no tomorrow. I am starting to really dislike FauxNews immensely. Day in and day out Faux or Fox is trying to sway the elections and that is the reason why I stopped watching all the other Commie stations.

Now on Monday, we'll hear the real story From Rush. It is really pathetic what the Commie media are trying to do.


25 posted on 11/04/2006 1:59:16 PM PST by rambo316 (Peace Through Superior Firepower and God.)
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Liberal editors can write what they will, but they will never get the troops with their butt on the line to mistrust the faith they have in the judgment of President Bush.

I can't think of a President that cares more about the men and women in uniform in recent history.

Liberals may hate it, but the military loves President bush.
27 posted on 11/04/2006 2:00:50 PM PST by Beagle8U (Getting the FReepers to bring down the Dixie Chix is hard work......G.W. Bush)
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....And another thing, Faux, ABC, CBS, NBC, the Communist News Network and PMSNBC all have blood on their hands with their reporting antics. Of course, it is the blood of our fallen and wounded warriors who are fighting for existence as a Free Republic.


30 posted on 11/04/2006 2:04:23 PM PST by rambo316 (Peace Through Superior Firepower and God.)
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Whew!!!!!!!!!!!

All those Leftists, intertwined with Gannett. Pick a name from their board of directors and just see where it goes. It's like the fingers and threads of a Cancer, all over the place.

Incestuous, is what it is.

31 posted on 11/04/2006 2:07:24 PM PST by Thumper1960
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"These are not "professional military publications."

"They are now part of the Gannett Group (USAToday) and the writers for these four "military papers" also work at USAToday!"



The media are reporting the story as if the military were demanding Rummy go - they do not do their homework = are they dupes?


We need to email them all QUICK and inclde those two lines - we need to get this reversed NOW. WE have the power. Let's use it.


"Let's Roll"

Let's remind remind all the media to cover it - Once it hits one outlet big - it will spread like wildfire because the media outlets get frantic once a story has broken and will run over each other to air it too .

...(I'm retired from the newspaper business - this is my bailiwick and I am so thankful for the net and FR - for giving us the greatest tools of information dissemination any society ever had - For the first time in history, they can't shut us down...Let's USE IT)


(Copy/paste list to your files for quick find in future)

Media emails – the formula: if they hear from 40 to 45 people on a story, they will cover it.
CAUTION: do not mass email - they won’t look at it – email singly- also : Short and sweet or they wont look at it! Include a link, if you have one.


e.d.hill@foxnews.com



Brit.Hume@foxnews.com
Myword@foxnews.com John Gibson
Weekends: Bigstory-weekend@foxnews.com John Gibson
Cavuto@foxnews.com
Special@foxnews.com
Hannity@foxnews.com
Oreilly@foxnews.com
Special@foxnews.com (Brit Hume)
Studiob@foxnews.com (Shepard Smith)
writemalkin@gmail.com (Michelle Malkin)
hardball@msnbc.com
Drudge@drudgereport.com
captainsquartersblog.com

hhewitt@hughhewitt.com
pundit@instapundit.com
Beltway@foxnews.com
Rush@eibnet.com
joe@msnbc.com


To get to FOX News direct – go to this link, BELOW - scroll down to small box on left = where it says Send news tip to FOXNews.com

Type your message and click submit…this might prove to be effective! (they don’t even request your name/email, etc)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html

and the Washington Times page with box for comments:
http://www.washtimes.com/contact-us/



35 posted on 11/04/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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Contact the advertisers. Let them know how you feel about the leftist stance on their editorials and articles.


47 posted on 11/04/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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"This is a mistake," the editorial says. "Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large."

Even if that were true, it wouldn't matter much. We have civilian control of the military, something the leftists normally scream from the rooftops. Rusmfeld is the appointee of the President, also a civilian, who was elected by the people, through the electoral college, to be the Commander in Chief. The military, General to buck private, can either salute and say "yes sir", or they can resign. (Well when their enlistment or obligated service is up).

That said, I'm not necessarily enamored of Rummie either. But that's only because he has too often filled the role of designated hatchet man when weapons, and manpower, were cut. I wasn't happy with the cancellation of the Comanche helicopter, nor of the Crusader SP artillery. I wasn't happy when 1/3 of the B-1s where sent to the bone yard either, nor with the recent announcement that the F-117s are scheduled for retirement, well before their real replacement, the JSF/F-35, comes on line. (The announcements talk about the F-22, but it can't carry as bombs as large as those the F-117 can carry, and is really a fighter, not an attack aircraft). Given the realities of the FY07 budget, I expect that FCS (Future Combat System, which is the future of the Army) will take some hits as well. Meanwhile the equipment we have is wearing out, especially Army and Marine ground vehicles.

All this to feed the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. That war needs fighting, but not all our enemies consist of illiterate ragheads with IEDs, RPGs, and small arms. The Iranians have more, as do the North Koreans. .... Then there are the Red Chinese and resurgent Russians.

50 posted on 11/04/2006 8:21:21 PM PST by El Gato
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