Posted on 11/11/2006 5:04:36 AM PST by shrinkermd
...Anti-abortionists have been craving a test case to put before the U.S. Supreme Court, in hopes of overturning Roe vs. Wade — and thought they had it when the South Dakota Legislature passed a ban on abortion. Instead of challenging the law in court, though, pro-choice forces cleverly put the matter to a popular referendum. Even in that socially conservative, anti-abortion state, a decisive majority Tuesday preserved a woman's right to choose. To some extent, they were bothered by the ban's extraordinary lack of compassion, refusing to exempt even the victims of rape and incest. But a frequently voiced complaint about the ban was that government simply shouldn't interfere with private lives.
That's a closely held American value and one that Republicans should embrace again lest they want to see this midterm election be a harbinger of a long-range trend.
Both California and Oregon voted down attempts to require parental notification before a minor can obtain an abortion. In several other states, anti-abortion congressional candidates were defeated, and Kansas' Phill Kline, the state attorney general who notoriously overreached the powers of his office in his single-minded attack on family planning and abortion clinics, was turned out of office.
In California, Proposition 85 was the second attempt within a year to impose parental notification on girls, most of whom already talk to their parents before opting for an abortion. Both efforts failed at the polls...
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
"...The voters have spoken resoundingly on abortion and the right to privacy. Those who want to turn government into Big Brother need to heed the message and give it up..."
Sorry, this was about an extremist law in South Dakota. As for the anti abortion candidates losing, well so did the anti-gay marriage candidates, and that certainly won, big time. The others was about turn out, this time, Dems turned out, just the way it goes.
Abortion is a minor issue for most Americans. I can appreciate the passion that some people have regarding it, but as far as a campaign issue, the majority of the people don't care.
San Francisco values? Nope, AMERICAN values.
Sigh. Here is the single most misunderstood issue, EVER.
It's not really about abortion, is it? It's about the Federal government usurping power that was given to the States, expressly, by the constitution.
Emanations and penumbras be damned! This is a matter for the individuals States to decide. Show me this mythical "Right to Privacy" in the Constitution.
I'm going to have to look for the source, but I've seen it stated that in every single national election since 1972, abortion was "the most important issue" for only 7 to 13 percent of voters.
The issues that cost the Republicans in '06 are lack of fiscal responsibility, and corruption/morality problems. Both easily fixed with strong candidates. It is going to be a rough few years, but maybe this purge will turn out to be a good thing. I sure hope so.
No! I don't by this bologna even one little bit. The fact is that nine S-I-C-K human beings (I use the term loosely)created Big Brother..." and said sic 'em to the killers who would then slaughter like swine MILLIONS of really human babies!
No, this was no "...resoundingly..." spoken anything. It's clear enough after this election that at least half of the voters are basically clueless, uninformed individuals willing to be led around blindly.
So no, I just don't by this argument!!! But thanks for the thread.
Nancee
Ronald Reagan said it best I think:
'Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.'
The value and righteousness of a society is determined in large part as to how that society treats the most innocent and vulnerable, i.e., the very young, and the very old.
In that regard, America is well on it's way to becoming a euthanasia-nation.
And we as a Nation will not escape the judgment of the Almighty for such abominations.
(1) abortion is OK at any period during pregnancy (as long as the fetus is still inside the mother's womb)
(2) abortion is OK but with very strict regulation that makes it almost impossible to do
(3) abortion is OK but only when the pregnancy is less than certain months
(4) abortion is OK, but certain methods are not
(5) abortion is not OK except for the cases of rape, incest, and where mother's health is in danger
(6) abortion is not OK at any the time
I don't know if there's any survey or ballot which arranges its question this way. I'm wondering which one people would choose.
It is the slaughter of the innocents and we haven't begun to see the cost to the Republic, yet.
Abortion should be voted on by the people in each individual state, not by the judicial idiots. Then get it out of national politics for good.
The right to privacy may not be explicitly in the constitution, but Americans rightfully claimed it. Now the government continues to try to take it back. While the right to privacy is applied to abortion, that is not nearly the only issue that the right to privacy protects.
The LA Times is a very pro-abort newspaper. Subscribers are voting to cancel it in droves. I guess that proves the pro-abort message is unpopular.
"The LA Times is a very pro-abort newspaper. Subscribers are voting to cancel it in droves. I guess that proves the pro-abort message is unpopular."
Kudos!!!
-- Joe
You are so exactly right when you wrote:
"It's about the Federal government usurping power that was given to the States, expressly, by the Constitution."
In my opinion, it's also about a Federal Judiciary of nine (9) citizens who went completely nuts in 1973 and the improper usage of this third, and according to Alexander Hamilton in the Federalist Papers, the least dangerous, ideally, branch of government. Here is what Thomas Jefferson wrote on this subject in a September 11, 1804 letter to Abigail Adams:
"Nothing in the Constitution has given them [the federal judges] a right to decide for the Executive, more than to the Executive to decide for them...But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional, and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislature and executive also, in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despostic branch."
Later in his life (1821) he would write this in a letter to a Mr. Hammond:
"The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in...the federal judiciary; an irresponsible body (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States."
I just cannot say it any better than this good man, one of the often referred to "Founding Fathers" of this great country.
Nancee
:-)
I need to add something else to this...
I canceled my subscription to a 'major' paper EXACTLY because I was so sick of their pro-abort, pro-perversion advocacy. And because I had small kids who were getting older, and didn't want them to swallow this garbage.
So... this very point of abortion driving a group in or out of power is probably very close to the heart of the dinosaur media.
-- Joe
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