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To: stm
Two and a half years of hard work and sacrifice right down the shitter.

It's actually three and a half years. I've been here for three of 'em.

Bush had better get ready to use the VETO stamp. The rats don't have the 2/3 majority they need to override.

The rats did NOT get a mandate on Tuesday.

6 posted on 11/12/2006 9:15:28 AM PST by Allegra (Help! I'm "Stuck in Iraq!" I KNEW I Should Have Studied Harder....)
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To: Allegra

White House hopes Gates can heal government rift

By David E. Sanger and Scott Shane / The New York Times

Published: November 12, 2006

WASHINGTON: President George W. Bush selected Robert Gates as his new defense secretary in part to close a long-running rift between the Defense Department and the State Department, which has hobbled progress on Iraq, keeping the two agencies at odds on issues ranging from reconstruction to detaining terrorism suspects, White House officials and members of Gates's inner circle said.

While Gates, a former director of the CIA, had long been considered for a variety of roles, over the past two months Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, quietly steered the White House toward replacing Donald Rumsfeld with Gates, who worked closely with Rice under President George H.W. Bush. One senior participant in those discussions, who declined to be identified, said "everyone realizes that we don't have much time to get this right" and the first step is to get "everyone driving on the same track."

White House officials said that goal may be difficult to accomplish in the seventh year of an administration. Rice and Rumsfeld never managed to resolve their differences, especially after their arguments over the handling of the occupation broke into public view in the late summer of 2003. As national security adviser during Bush's first term, Rice was unable to halt a war between the State Department and the Pentagon that put senior officials in the two departments in a state of constant conflict.

The question is whether it is too late to achieve Bush's goal of a stable and democratic Iraq, even if Gates and Rice are able to work together as smoothly in altering policy as they did 15 years ago on a very different kind of problem, managing the American response to the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

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Letter From Washington: After Republican rout, who is to take the lead?A few members of the Iraq Study Group - the commission created in March at the urging of members of Congress, from which Gates stepped down Friday - have wondered aloud in recent days whether the insurgency and sectarian conflict may be too far advanced to reverse. The group will consult with the British prime minister, Tony Blair, by video Tuesday and is due to present recommendations to the White House and Congress in December.

And while Gates, who faces Senate confirmation hearings at roughly the same time, is considered far less combative and contrarian than Rumsfeld, he has a long-ago history of clashing with secretaries of state, most notably George Shultz, who objected to Gates's hawkish views of the Soviet Union and once tried to have him fired.

He is being thrust into the job at a moment when Democrats, newly empowered by their control of the House and the Senate, are promising investigations into the conduct of the war in Iraq and demanding a bigger voice in policy.

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http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/12/news/gates.php


11 posted on 11/12/2006 9:26:08 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Allegra
The bills that will be sent to him will be couched in "nuance" and obfuscation. They won't be blatant "cut off all funds" and they will redefine victory as a withdrawal with Maliki or equivalent in charge even though he and Southern Iraq will be ruled by Al Sadr. Bush will not veto such bills. Protect yourself and make what progress you can, but the US is going to leave - soon.
13 posted on 11/12/2006 9:27:23 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Allegra

You're right, my bad. My unit crossed the berm with 3ID at 0700 on the first day of the war. My how time flies. Been back once and will probably go back next year for a three-peat if the surrender monkeys have not already pulled us out and handed the country back to the enemy.


15 posted on 11/12/2006 9:29:52 AM PST by stm (It's time to take our country back from the surrender monkeys.)
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To: Allegra
Technically, no they didn't, but realistically they did.

The RATS and their media won, pure and simple, and as I have said for years the MSM runs this country, along with Hollywood, Academia, and most of the judiciary.

And have for 40 years.

We best realize that it is every man for himself now, for we on the Right have proved that we cannot collectively defeat the Left when they really turn it on, because we could not agree on the true enemy, and are obsessed with waiting for some Godlike, Robot Conservative Savior, perfect in every way, to save us.

I guess Nov 7th was the first step in becoming Europe.
19 posted on 11/12/2006 9:37:07 AM PST by roses of sharon
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