Posted on 11/19/2006 5:37:05 AM PST by Liz
****......he won't be able to get conservatives on his presidential bandwagon. He is pro-choice and favors same-sex marriage, gun control and stem-cell research. He has to be able to swing Middle America. Name redacted Bellerose
**** Who is going to run Giuliani's exploratory committee? I understand Bernie Kerik, Russell Harding, Richard Roberts and a list of assorted cons are available from Giuliani's group of yes men. Maybe his driver will be our next attorney general. That's just what our country needs - more scandals. Whitestone
**** Giuliani was a terrible mayor, and has spent all his days promoting himself. Manhattan
**** Giuliani for president? What is happening to the moral high ground of the Republicans? It sounds like they are becoming the more corrupt and morally disgusting bunch of the two parties, yet they want Giuliani to lead the party of moral conviction and family values? Memphis, Tenn.
**** Giuliani as a presidential candidate is a scary concept. Manhattan
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Giuliani’s gay worship is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage. In 1998, he pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender.
Then-Mayor Rudy gave homosexuals high-paid city jobs including the son of Liberal Party honcho Ray Harding (who endorsed Rudy and gave Rudy the Liberal Party ballot line). Russell Harding stole the city blind, giving himself unauthorized salary raises, stealing electronic equipment, enjoying gay porn, internet child porn, and traveling with gay friends on the taxpayers' dime. When appraised of the ripoff, and that Russell was being prosecuted, Rudy said he "felt bad" for the Harding family.
Rudy never deviated from the liberal drill and dared not uter a discouraging word about the depraved Russel, lest Rudy alienate big buck homosexual and liberal donors and voters.
However, even though he had no legal or official mandate to do so, Rudy never hesitated to use his office to marginalize and demean conservatives and conservative values.
Rudy promoted his ex-driver---Bernie Kerik---for Homeland/Sec Chief. Kerik's nomination flopped b/c of his shady background, an illegal nanny problem, and for using an official post-9/11 pad for extra-marital trysts. Kerik later pleaded guilty to having mob connections.
So, just how is this liberal Democrat going to get the Republican nomination? He's the MSM's fallback position if McCain doesn't get it.
Big media took out George Allen; wow, did they do a number on him.
Conservatives better find a candidate.
If liberals are thinking this, then Rudy must be the man.
Gun grabber.
"Conservatives better find a candidate".
The rinos will put Romney up for nomination as well cuz.
Another Freeper post of Rudy bashing.
Rudy is liberal on many social issues. I am a libertarian and don't have a problem with that, even though I don't agree with him on some things. I don't like the positions that he took on gun control, but consider that the New York Law has a strict law that he was sworn to uphold. As a candidate for President, he would need to address his position on Federal Law. I'd like to see how he comes out on that issue.
On the issues that rate high for a President, Rudy is conservative: National Security and Defense; Homeland Security; Law and Order; fiscal responsibility; and leadership (he wrote a book by that name=he has it).
Haley Barbour and Mike Duncan are going to be the new standard bearers of Conservatives.
Barbour has some name recognition. Question is how clean is he?
When a man has control over the nuclear weapons and the choice is between an insane senator or a sane ex-mayor the other issues seem to take a back seat.
On the issues that rate high for a human being, Rudy Giuliani is lacking moral character. Just look at his personal life and the characters he chums with, like Bernie Kerik.
Hey Rudy!!
Look at FreeRepublic Poll on the side bar.
60% against
40% for
IMHO - Don't run and risk fracturing the party...
But do RINO's ever listen??
"Question is how clean is he?"
On what?
mPres Romney/Gingrich/
VP M. Steele/JC Watts
Homeland Security, hire JD Hayworth, he has no job
Scary because....
Consider the alternatives. You can't beat a scary someone with someone even more scary. Consider the 1964 Presidential race, when LBJ, a very scary person already, was building his entire legacy on that of JFK. The very thought of how LBJ may have been involved in the actions that catapulted him to the Presidency, and the cavalier attitude when confronted by challenges to that exalted position, is enough to bring doubt to the most trusting of people.
To boost his own standing, LBJ started the campaign of "scary Barry", and topped it all with the little girl picking daisies, who disappeared in the mushroom cloud. This was probably the epitome of negative campaigning, and it was wildly successful.
I was told that if I voted for Barry Goldwater that year, taxes would rise sharply, there would be widespread civil unrest, the war in Viet Nam would expand, and I would probably lose my job.
I voted for Barry anyway, and sure enough, every one of those predictions came true.
Only Rudy could make me a McCainiac. The nice thing about Mad Mc is that he'll be forced to pick a Rightist Veep . . . and I doubt Mc lives until 2017.
Rudy would likely try to make that legal.
Rudy Giuliani is effectively, if not intentionally, a stalking horse for Mrs. Bill Clinton. If he gets the nomination Mrs. Bill will certainly win. If McCain gets it then she will only probably win.
New York's law is not Constitutional, to begin with. You do not swear to uphold anything you don't believe in.
Rudy has done more than just "uphold" the unconstitutional crap, he has expanded it.
You can pick your issues that define "conservative", I'll pick mine!
He should run on the Liberaltarian party ticket.
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