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Why I Smoke Cigars (Conservative Cigar Smokers Club Alert) [Dennis Prager Joins Rush Limbaugh]
Townhall.com ^ | 11/21/2006 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/20/2006 9:08:17 PM PST by goldstategop

There are few personal confessions more likely to alienate many Americans than to admit to smoking. Singles ads are filled with people who will never even go on a first date with someone who smokes. I strongly suspect that more women would date a millionaire who earned his money disreputably than a millionaire who smoked.

Drinkers are far more highly regarded than smokers, as are playboys, gamblers, lawyers, politicians and almost anyone else except child molesters.

So I have no doubt that some readers who until now have held me in esteem will lose respect for me when they learn that not only do I smoke cigars and a pipe, but I love doing so, have no interest in stopping and have been happy to pass this pleasure on to my older son. In fact, we regularly have some of our best talks while we enjoy our cigars.

For the record, I never smoke cigarettes, which I happen to dislike the smell of, and which I acknowledge to be dangerous. But what I write here largely applies to cigarette smokers as well. In fact, I find anti-smoking zealots far more dangerous to society than cigarette smokers, and would much sooner date a cigarette smoker than one of the zealots.

Having said that, however, it does need to be pointed out that there is little in common between cigar (or pipe) smoking and cigarette smoking. Most important, we don't inhale. This is not meant in the way former President Bill Clinton meant it when he said he "never inhaled." The purpose and joy of cigar and pipe smoking are to enjoy the taste of tobacco in one's mouth. The purpose and joy of cigarette smoking are only vaguely related to the taste of tobacco.

And that leads to two other great differences between cigarette smoking and cigar (and pipe) smoking: First, there is no issue of addiction regarding cigars or pipes. I have been smoking both since I was 15 years old, and could stop tomorrow if I wanted to. Indeed, as a Jew who observes the Sabbath prohibition on kindling fire, I do not smoke for a day every week, and it is effortless. Likewise, I am frequently on the road lecturing, and often miss days at a time with absolutely no discernible effect. Second, because one does not inhale when smoking a cigar or pipe, the likelihood of lung cancer is minimal.

Yes, I am warned by doctors that I am more liable to contract mouth or lip cancer, but while physicians may see such diseases, in 40 years of smoking I have never met or heard of one person with either cancer.

Indeed, I am quite convinced that my one-a-day cigar or pipe may well have had a positive impact on my health given how much relaxation it induces. Stress kills far more people than cigars or pipes do.

It is a sign of the times that the latest James Bond film has prohibited 007 from smoking a cigar. One of the most benign practices a person can engage in was banned, but our macho hero can be shown drinking alcohol and bedding women (and without any mention of condoms!), not to mention killing people and engaging in behaviors infinitely more dangerous than cigar smoking.

We live in the Age of Stupidity. This new age has been induced by widespread college education and widespread secularism -- Psalms is entirely accurate: "Wisdom begins with fear of the Lord" -- which explains, for example, why only well-educated secularists came to believe that there were no innate nonphysical differences between men and women.

Nearly 100 years ago, before widespread college education and before widespread secularism, when America tried to prohibit a vice, it chose alcohol, not tobacco. It knew that there were immoral consequences to alcohol consumption -- most child abuse, most spousal abuse, about half of violent crimes and most rapes are accompanied by alcohol. Nobody has ever raped because smoking a cigarette or a cigar numbed his conscience. And no one fears smoking drivers; we rightly fear drinking drivers.

Both in my hometown and on the road, I find great joy in visiting cigar stores and schmoozing with the owners and with the guys smoking there. In fact, cigar stores may be the last place men can get together without women.

Of course if you think I am really killing people due to the secondhand smoke they inhale from my cigar or pipe, I presume all discussion ends. I am then simply a killer who needs to be stopped. I find absurd the notion that more than 50,000 Americans are killed every year just by being in the presence of smokers. But if you believe it, all you need to do is open a window and enjoy yourself.

The late legendary comedian George Burns was a listener to my radio talk show. When he was around 90 years old, he invited me to his Beverly Hills home. In the course of our two hours together, he smoked two cigars and had a couple of martinis. I asked him what his doctor said about those habits. George looked at me and responded, "My doctor died."

My father is 88 years old and has been smoking a few cigars a day (in my 87-year-old mother's presence, I might add). They are both in near-perfect health. He not only taught me the joys of cigars. He also taught me the importance of thinking for myself and how to lead an honorable life that includes as much joy as possible.


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Conservative Cigar Smokers Club Bump

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 11/20/2006 9:08:21 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Macanudo Bump!


2 posted on 11/20/2006 9:10:48 PM PST by nevergore (?It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.?)
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To: nevergore
Yeah, if you like a nice fat Cohiba, this is your thread! Its about FREEDOM, Man.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

3 posted on 11/20/2006 9:12:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop


Backwoods and Macanudo Profundo PING!


4 posted on 11/20/2006 9:13:46 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: goldstategop

excuse me while I light up my hand-rolled Hoyo de Monterrey Excalibur.....


5 posted on 11/20/2006 9:14:26 PM PST by gb63
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To: goldstategop

Ah, a man after my own heart. I just finished a cigar and bourbon watching Monday Night Football. Very relaxing, especially since i'm a Dallas Cowboys fan.


6 posted on 11/20/2006 9:14:32 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: goldstategop

In honor of your thread...here's a Cigar City, Florida...Arturo Fuente Hemingway Classic Bump!

The perfectos are my favorite.


7 posted on 11/20/2006 9:18:58 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: goldstategop

I have a nice cigar once or twice a year. Davidoff on Madison Avenue has a really superb offering.


8 posted on 11/20/2006 9:20:35 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: goldstategop

I deeply respect Dennis Praeger, He is a gentleman and a true conservative intellect. But he is wrong. I don't care if I'm a conservative, a liberal or a Martian. Common sense tells me that breathing smoke into the human lungs is an unhealthy habit. And I am saddened by all the young people in the convenience store line ahead of me spending their money and their health on Marlboros and Camels. Smoking is a dirty unhealthy, and addictive habit.


9 posted on 11/20/2006 9:20:40 PM PST by Williams
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To: goldstategop
"Yes, I am warned by doctors that I am more liable to contract mouth or lip cancer, but while physicians may see such diseases, in 40 years of smoking I have never met or heard of one person with either cancer."

Come on Dennis, is that a responsible statement? He's never met a person with mouth or lip cancer, so he figures it's not worth worrying about? I've heard of ballplayers and celebrities with those cancers.

10 posted on 11/20/2006 9:25:05 PM PST by Williams
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So is drinking or eating fast food....In fact, a much stronger argument could be made regarding the detrimental health benefits of fast food over cigars......


11 posted on 11/20/2006 9:26:11 PM PST by nevergore (?It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.?)
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To: Williams
I don't smoke but as I see it, its not a vice that particularly harms any one. Its a guilty pleasure and tobacco has brought happiness to people for hundreds of years. The anti-smoking nazis are free not to smoke if they choose but they have no right bossing other people around, even for their own good. That way lies tyranny. And as I write this I think of the most famous conservative cigar smoker of them all: Winston Churchill.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

12 posted on 11/20/2006 9:26:29 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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We live in the Age of Stupidity.

I might just try that one on for size as a tagline...

13 posted on 11/20/2006 9:39:11 PM PST by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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To: Williams
"Yes, I am warned by doctors that I am more liable to contract mouth or lip cancer, but while physicians may see such diseases, in 40 years of smoking I have never met or heard of one person with either cancer."

Personal anecdotes are much more accurate than professionally gathered statistics. /sarc

14 posted on 11/20/2006 9:44:50 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: nevergore
Well, Dennis is being a bit careless because his defense of cigar and pipe smoking seems to slop over into a defense of cigarette smoking. many cigar/ pipe smokers don't inhale and many use the products only once or twice a day. Cigarettes are a whole other story.

I didn't say anything about laws, but smoking is a bad habit. I would hate to see conservatives distinguish themselves by being smokers. It's not a political issue.

And yes, drinking and fast food are vices as well. I don't drink much but I do eat fast food, and parents probably should be ashamed giving their kids that stuff. We won't be fighting the terrorists with all the obese and diabetic kids we are bringing up. Again, I'm not talking about laws but about behavior.

15 posted on 11/20/2006 9:45:40 PM PST by Williams
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To: goldstategop

I don't care for cigars. I enjoy fine wine.


16 posted on 11/20/2006 9:47:24 PM PST by Porterville (I'm afraid the forces that want war are more than the forces who don't)
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To: Moonman62
If memory serves, there was a book written about the anti-smoking crusade during The Third Reich. There will always be zealots who will trample on personal freedoms in the name of some imagined good. And once freedom is lost, its difficult to recover it. Of course today, they'll ban smoking. Who knows what we'll lose tomorrow? We do indeed live in an Age Of Stupidity.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

17 posted on 11/20/2006 9:48:50 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
As Kipling once said, "A woman is only a woman, but a good Cigar is a Smoke."

You can read his classic poem here.

18 posted on 11/20/2006 9:53:56 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Williams
Completely agree. Cigars are enjoyed infrequently by many; not inhaled and savored with a nice liquor by many.

Chain cigarette smoking is another animal. A degenerative, often deadly one at that.

19 posted on 11/20/2006 9:56:30 PM PST by zarf
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To: Williams
I didn't say anything about laws, but smoking is a bad habit. I would hate to see conservatives distinguish themselves by being smokers.

The militant cigarette smokers are completely in denial. I defend their right to kill themselves, but they refuse to accept the fact it's a deadly habit.

20 posted on 11/20/2006 9:59:54 PM PST by zarf
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