Posted on 11/20/2006 9:08:17 PM PST by goldstategop
I wasn't describing laws either just the guilt you ooze like a Jewish Mother to her child...."you never call, you never write...."
Stop feeling guilty regarding small vices, be happy....you'll live longer.......and stop forcing this guilt on others...
Fast food, cigars, cigarettes, drinking, sex (well maybe not sex) is fine in moderation...won't kill you....Just exercise and eat properly, maintain your weight and you'll live into your eighties.
The best revenge against liberals....Old wrinkly conservatives punching out chads in Palm Beach County...
Hollywood claims that the immoral behavior and profanity shown on the screen do not influence audience (and minors) behavior while at the same time bilking corporations for millions for product placement in films and prohibiting tobacco use as it could inspire someone to light up. There is no such ban on drug use in films, if drugs are glorified, so what. "everybody does it"
Ballplayers probably got it from chewing tobacco.
Not saying tobacco is a safe product. Some dangers are overstated.
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
You mean I'm going to die someday?!?!
A Montecristo numero 1 is calling is calling me!
(One of the pleasures available is this ef##ing country, saludos a todos)
I wonder what the actual numbers are of people who contract mouth and lip cancer due to pipes and cigars. That would have been good to put in his article just to be a fair warning. I think Dennis does so much better talking about his principles and morals rather than one of his escapes.
I'll bump a Macanudo for Thanksgiving.
--Yes, I am warned by doctors that I am more liable to contract mouth or lip cancer, but while physicians may see such diseases, in 40 years of smoking I have never met or heard of one person with either cancer.--
My dead uncle will tell him otherwise when they finally meet.
--I don't smoke but as I see it, its not a vice that particularly harms any one.--
Every published study shows that smoking is harmful!
But, it's still legal!
What is it that even conservatives feel they have a right to interfere in anothers life choices? Don't we get enough of that from liberals?
Yes, my son, it's true. But it's equally as true that there will be so many dogooders that want to tell you how to run your life and what a vile and disgusting creature you are that by the time you get there you'll embrace it.
Can you image a world where personal choices that don't effect others (now we'll get the healthcare cost wonks) like smoking and eating were none of anyones business? Heck, it's not even possible on a conservative site so I think we're out of luck with it really happening in our current "take all the sharp edges off of life/we know best" culture but it's fun to think about.
The latter because I really enjoy them. The former because it's a sure fire way to piss off liberal busybodies.
L
My own personal guess would be that Mr. Prager is correct on this point. The relaxing effect of an occasional cigar probably well outweighs any potential health hazard.
The entire planet is suffering from an egregious case of weenie-ism. Just an observation...
but basically, you are taking "smoke" into your body constantly - its called pollution, or gas fumes near the pump, or even "dust" and all of these are far more noxious than cigar smoke.
In spanish, the word for cigar is "puro", which of course means "pure" - and that is what cigars bring to the game. you really missed the whole point of Prager's great article that the benefit of cigars, which you *MUST* smoke slowly and deliberately, rather than puff hurridly and deeply into your lungs like cigarrettes.
Cigars are a great way to sit down, relax, and think about things, which is of course why the sheep must be steared away from them. Those who decide things in the world will continue to smoke cigars...
ballplayers get mouth cancer from chewing tobacco, no smoking cigars and sipping whiskey.
I'm a non-smoker, not a radical, but I'm one of those who wouldn't date a woman just because she's a smoker. I grew up with a house full of cigarette smokers, and swore I'd control that in adulthood. I have. I'm disgusted by the habit, but I won't shy away from smokers in a social situation. Some of my best friends are smokers. (Have fun with that line, Michael Richards)
Having said all of that, I wouldn't even consider banning smoking. You have the right to kill yourself, and I have the right not to put myself in your company. The non-smoking in public places laws that are being passed are insane. I think that if a restaurant or other establishment wants to be non-smoking, that's great. Or vice versa, because it's my choice as to where to eat dinner.
So smoke away. Ultimately you're thinning out the population when you die from contract one of the many cancers associated with smoking, and thereby doing Darwin's work.
Second, cigars smell horribly to the non smoker and cigars will make the smoker's clothes smell like garbage.
Third, cigars are still unhealthy, I don't care if the name means "healthy" "pure" or anything else. Breathing in smoke is unhealthy and for many quite annoying. Exposure to nicotine is addictive.
As for Dennis Praeger, while he mentions that he doesn't like cigarettes he is defending cigarette smokers as well.
Again, I'm not discussing laws, just behavior. My grandfather was an avid pipe and cigar smoker (until he gave them up late in life due to throat irritation) and I have great respect for him as well. But as a parent, I can tell you I hope my kid has the sense to NOT use cigarettes, cigars, pipes, chew, or any tobacco product. The reasons are health and addiction. Let's not pretend a big smelly cigar is really a sweet petunia. It ain't.
And what makes cigar smokers think their chit don't smell?
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