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1 posted on 11/27/2006 7:04:48 AM PST by meandog
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Per pupil spending in NYC is $13,000 a student. With half of that money I could home school my children and run circles around the average NYC HS graduate...
2 posted on 11/27/2006 7:06:10 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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"You would think that they might leave this -- the shaping of their children’s minds, careers, and futures -- to trained professionals."

Ha!

What a crock.

3 posted on 11/27/2006 7:06:45 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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One of the LAMEST statements attempting to support an argument I have ever read ...

"I’m certainly not opposed to religious schools, or to anyone standing up for what they believe in. I admire anyone who has the strength to stand up against the majority. But in this case, pulling children out of a school is not the best way to fight the laws that govern our education system. No battle has ever been won by retreating!"

'fight the laws'??? oh my ...


4 posted on 11/27/2006 7:07:13 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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Where's the barf alert?


5 posted on 11/27/2006 7:07:17 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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to serve these wannabe teachers.

I am a homeschooling Dad - I am NOT a "wannabe teacher".

I have no desire to teach your kids.

6 posted on 11/27/2006 7:08:09 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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It’s obvious to me that these organizations are in it for the money.

Gasp! You mean a company actually wants to make a profit? Unbelievable! Well, I guess all those teachers' unions, NEA, etc.. will stop pushing for the need for more funding.

7 posted on 11/27/2006 7:09:06 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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I HAVE wondered why parents who homeschool don't automatically band together and specialize, each focusing on a different subject. It would seem that charter schools would naturally flow out of such an arrangement. I'm pretty sure it happens, but it seems like it would be a natural outcome.


8 posted on 11/27/2006 7:09:39 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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"Without allowing their children to mingle, trade ideas and thoughts with others, these parents are creating social misfits."

What a sick joke.

Send your kids to public school and they WILL be misfits.

9 posted on 11/27/2006 7:09:46 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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I see, it takes a "professional" to manage to get a child through 12 years of "education" and still manage to have him/her to be an illiterate social degenerate.

No thanks, I would rather place our nations future in the hands of these "well meaning amateurs" any day.
10 posted on 11/27/2006 7:10:45 AM PST by GrandEagle
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Don’t most parents have a tough enough job teaching their children social, disciplinary and behavioral skills?

Do you ever wonder where those social, disciplinary and behavioral problems COME FROM?

11 posted on 11/27/2006 7:11:13 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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A Question of Quality: Paperwork and legal threats discourage teacher firings
12 posted on 11/27/2006 7:11:16 AM PST by Darnright
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They ask the CUSTODIAN to write this? They couldn't find a teacher?

I wish that your average public school teacher WAS an "expert". Unfortunately, if you look at the mean SAT scores, the grades, the colleges of graduation, or any other indicator of success in learning, public school teachers are far behind the curve. In fact, the mean SAT scores of education majors are the lowest of any college major (this may have changed - the last time I looked was a few years ago - but I doubt it).

It has been my experience that the best teachers are those who are (1) familiar with the subject; (2) highly motivated. In the elementary grades, almost any parent of reasonable intelligence is both of these. When you reach high school, some of the specialized subjects can be more difficult, but that's why there are homeschool co-ops. If I were still homeschooling my son, I would "trade" my skills in English composition and grammar, history, Latin, and German for lessons from somebody who knows what a differential equation is!

As for this fellow's arguments, they are straw men (take the socialization riff for example. I have never heard a homeschooler argue "forget it!" Scouts, church, and athletic activities provide ample opportunities for socialization.)

14 posted on 11/27/2006 7:12:32 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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Dave Arnold, a member of the Illinois Education Association, is head custodian at Brownstown Elementary School in Southern Illinois.
17 posted on 11/27/2006 7:13:58 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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"(Dave Arnold, a member of the Illinois Education Association, is
head custodian at Brownstown Elementary School in Southern Illinois.)"


Does head custodian have the same job description as it did when we were in school?

19 posted on 11/27/2006 7:14:54 AM PST by bd476
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Certain jobs are best left to the pros, such as, formal education...

Just like those "pros" who setup timing for traffic lights?
Just like those "pros" who operate the IRS, GSO, etc?
Just like those "pros" who work airport security"

Since when did those in government employ become good at anything?

25 posted on 11/27/2006 7:16:42 AM PST by GingisK
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Public schools are, like, you know, SOOOOO 20th century.

They are quite literally obsolete.

We have the Dinosaur Media deathwatch disclaimer. Maybe we need a Public School Deathwatch disclaimer.


26 posted on 11/27/2006 7:16:55 AM PST by RobRoy
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In this case a BARF alert should have been sounded!


28 posted on 11/27/2006 7:17:14 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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The interesting thing is that some of the "well meaning amateurs" do better than the professionals.


30 posted on 11/27/2006 7:18:07 AM PST by Brilliant
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I expect to get flamed for this, but here I go.

I am a teacher. I teach English Literature. I firmly support a person's right to homeschool their children. That said, here is my one problem:

My cousin is a lawyer and a good one. He wants nothing more than to homeschool his children, but he has serious problems with mathematics. Algebra was a foreign language to him and forget about anything above that. (He made one 'C' in college...in College Algebra). Since he has such issues with mathematics, and the standardized tests put such emphasis on math, how can he, an obviously intelligent person, be reasonably expected to prepare his children for the rigors of math?

This may be an isolated incident, but does shed a big light on some more serious homeschool issues. Do most homeschool parents have the necessary skills to teach some of the more difficult courses? What about languages, which are often required for entrance to college?

Please do not get me wrong. I am 100% for your right to do what you will with your children, only that I question how well you can provide all the time.


32 posted on 11/27/2006 7:18:55 AM PST by shag377 (De gustibus non disputandum est)
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Based on SAT scores, the National Spelling Bee, and overall behavior, the "well intentioned amateurs" are by far doing a better job than the so-called "educated" professional teachers. Screw the public schools, that's what they do to their students and the people who pay for their big government social experiment. The worst thing I've seen in my life time is the total monopoly of governments schools and the death of parochial and private schools.
35 posted on 11/27/2006 7:20:00 AM PST by jackieaxe (Unsourced reporting is not reporting but a lie or a manipulation)
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