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To: Grim

I'm getting pretty sick of the myth that Britain just held America's coat while she dealt with the Nazis.

Britain sacrified just as much as the United States in the global struggle against fascist tyranny and it would be gracious of you to remember and honour it.

World War II casualties (from Wikipedia)

United Kingdom
Population: 47,800,000
Military deaths: 382,600
Civilian deaths: 67,800
Total: 450,400
Percentage of population: 0.94%

United States
Population: 132,000,000
Military deaths: 407,300
Civilian deaths: 11,200
Total: 418,500
Percentage of population: 0.32%


17 posted on 11/30/2006 12:19:06 AM PST by fragrant abuse
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To: fragrant abuse

and you have to remember Amercia turned up late for both wars and would probably still be sitting on the sidelines if Pearl Harbour hadn't been attacked.


18 posted on 11/30/2006 1:26:01 AM PST by MadMitch
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To: fragrant abuse
While too many Americans do definitely rub it in that the UK is indebted to the United States (and how many of those people actually fought in World War 2?), there should be more added to your chart.

Chiefly, World War 2 was practically forced on the British. The Nazis were at your figurative doorstep. You (if you are British; considering your spelling, that seems the case) had to enter the war; you had little choice.

In contrast, the United States was helping out the Allies at the expense of the Axis powers long before Pearl Harbor.

Furthermore, the UK was in more of a position to stop Germany before Hitler went on the offensive. Mr. Chamberlain has been castigated by history for that.

The United States fought heavily in both the European and Pacific theaters (there's American spelling for you), even though the European one was neither a direct threat at the time, nor the power that attacked the country in the first place.

The UK focused primarily on Europe and defending their country.... at the expense of their colonies. Many countries in the Asia-Pacific region appreciate how after the British pulled their troops (many of colonial origin) to defend the UK, the Americans sent troops to liberate them from the Japanese.

Then there is the fact that Wikipedia, while extremely useful, is not exactly the most accurate website, especially when it comes to the United States. However, off hand, the casualty figures for the United States, at least, seem accurate.

Finally, while Americans should be more appreciative of British efforts in World War 2, and in conflicts such as the current one in Iraq, you should note that many of your (again, if you are British) countrymen are decidedly anti-American, including some of your politicians. Many more British (at least in percentage) seem to be anti-Ameri-can than Americans seem to be anti-British. So who are you (the tone is harsh, but it isn't supposed to be) to criticize the token American who unfairly gets angry at the UK?

22 posted on 11/30/2006 3:43:32 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: fragrant abuse
"...Britain sacrified just as much as the United States in the global struggle against fascist tyranny and it would be gracious of you to remember and honour it..."

I do.

But it remains that it was Neville Chamberlain who precipitated the war.

36 posted on 11/30/2006 4:22:06 AM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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