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To: oldenuff2no

I don't go to LA. When I do travel it is with a GPS and at least two of the weapons on my permit. I stay out of places where I can't take care of me and mine....(etc., etc.)<<<<<<<<<

That's good, you don't worry about events ever overtaking you, it appears. I've seen plenty of complacent folks get tripped up thinking they have all the angles covered. Surely the things you listed are wise things to do, but bad things happen to people everyday who thought they were in good shape. What counts is how people react when the chips are down. Mr. Kim did everything humanly possible to save his family, which obviously put him at risk. He did much more than many would have done.

Newsflash: Gang members and other assorted thugs are not just indigenous to Los Angeles, they are spreading out all over the country. You are not automatically safe from them because you avoid Los Angeles, Detroit or Chicago. They are everywhere, small towns, big towns, and in between towns. It's not a question of you staying out of their places, they'll come to yours.

And don't assume a CCW will immunize you against what they bring with them, it will help give you piece of mind, but you won't have it in your hand 24/7. And the new breed of gang banger is mobile, so you can't just avoid their neighborhood. MS 13 goes wherever they want, for example, so hopefully you are well versed on spotting them. Good luck.


1,378 posted on 12/08/2006 10:34:40 PM PST by Mjaye (Some folks close their mouth only long enough to change feet.)
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To: Mjaye
"Newsflash: Gang members and other assorted thugs are not just indigenous to Los Angeles, they are spreading out all over the country. You are not automatically safe from them because you avoid Los Angeles, Detroit or Chicago. They are everywhere, small towns, big towns, and in between towns. It's not a question of you staying out of their places, they'll come to yours."


I don't assume anything when it comes to the safety of myself and/or my family. We are in an area that has pot growers hidden throughout the foothills and mountains. These gardens are maintained and guarded by armed illegal gang members.
We find two or three a month and drop a dime on them.
I agree with you, they are nasty people who are capable of doing much harm. They got my respect but I keep riding and hunting and they keep going to jail.
I travel the mountains with my horses mules and big dogs. There are so many noses and ears with me that nothing gets close to us that isn't detected. That is not an accident!

Some people still don't get it. When your out there all by yourself no one is going to be coming too soon and your safety and welfare are in your own hands. When you blow it there are no excuses you either get it done or it goes south on you.
Good people screw up all the time. It sounds like Mr Kim was a great guy but he was in over his head, he wasn't prepared and he didn't make good decisions.
1,380 posted on 12/08/2006 11:33:06 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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