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Greenspan says expects more dollar weakness
Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | December 11, 2006

Posted on 12/11/2006 7:10:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: shrinkermd

Either that, or he's trying to warn us what's about to happen.


21 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:12 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Everbody who is thinking clearly understands what I am telling them.

Everybody who is thinking clearly knows that when you say commodity based currency you really mean commodity based economy? That's funny.

After all, you have already agreed to translate my words into your native tongue--Pollyanish.

Translating idiot into English is getting tiring. Why don't you try English for a change?

22 posted on 12/11/2006 8:25:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: oceanview
Interesting. You seem to view the Euro as a stable investment. May I ask why?
23 posted on 12/11/2006 8:27:27 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: GodGunsGuts

the chinese peg must be broken. no matter what it takes. the problem for Paulsen & Bernanke, is that they are not only fighting the chinese, but US companies that want to maintain china as an artificially low cost area for them to relocate US manufacturing and technology to.

this should have been dealt with long ago.


24 posted on 12/11/2006 8:27:40 PM PST by oceanview
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To: kinoxi

its stable because their current account deficit is stable. you don't have the wild swings associated with the dollar accumulation flows in asia, propping their currencies up because exports to the US are the only things holding up their economies.


25 posted on 12/11/2006 8:30:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Toddsterpatriot

==Translating idiot into English is getting tiring.

Thanks for explaining how your thought process works. I always wondered why you couldn't properly interpret what is right in front of your nose. Little did I know that it was just your thoughts getting lost in your own translation of yourself.


26 posted on 12/11/2006 8:32:10 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: oceanview

==this should have been dealt with long ago.

Such as never opening up our markets to our Chicom enemies in the first place.


27 posted on 12/11/2006 8:33:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Gigi says idiotic things, I translate them into English. Tell me about the triple deficits again. Or why don't you explain how Greenspan said there was a balance of payments deficit?
28 posted on 12/11/2006 8:34:28 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

no WTO with a currency peg.


29 posted on 12/11/2006 8:34:43 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
That's an interesting perspective. Their current account deficit is stable due to artificial (read illegal) subsidies. The economic growth (zero in many places)in the Eurozone is not stable. It is artificial. Do you see some underlying force that will make Europe more competitive absent the subsidies or are they just supposed to happen for ever. :)
30 posted on 12/11/2006 8:37:55 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What's to explain? Don't you know what the balance of payments means???


31 posted on 12/11/2006 8:45:03 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Don't you know what the balance of payments means???

Don't you know that there is no "balance of payments deficit"?

32 posted on 12/11/2006 8:53:28 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: kinoxi

they do not have voracious consumers like we do, a "disposable" society. you buy an appliance from a european manufacturer - it lasts 10 years. in the US, I buy a new crap chinese made coffee maker every 2 years when the heating element fails.


33 posted on 12/11/2006 8:54:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
That's a bit subjective. Do you have a link on the unreliability of Asian/American products? Such a discrepancy must surely be quantified.
34 posted on 12/11/2006 8:59:34 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

suffice to say, europeans do not consume like americans do. it hurts them in many respects - they (like japan) don't have high consumption of internal services either, and as you see in the US, its our internal service economy that generates all our job growth - and you can't export those jobs.


35 posted on 12/11/2006 9:02:59 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Of course there is. If you mean the balance of payments must always be equal, that's only true in a strictly book keeping sense. But you can have specific kinds of deficits within the balance of payments, and Greenspan is saying those deficits are (and will continue) to push the dollar down for years to come. Greenspan is the one quoted as saying that btw, not me. I would have referred to the current account deficit.
36 posted on 12/11/2006 9:05:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: oceanview
So you simply state that American /Asian goods are inferior to and/or that Europeans don't use their equipment? You offer no proof. That's not defendable in reality. You seem to dislike the US/Asia when compared with Europe. Okay. Why?
37 posted on 12/11/2006 9:10:46 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I wonder what the CURRENT U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman says.

You don't have to wonder.

But the U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost. By increasing the number of U.S. dollars in circulation, or even by credibly threatening to do so, the U.S. government can also reduce the value of a dollar in terms of goods and services, which is equivalent to raising the prices in dollars of those goods and services. We conclude that, under a paper-money system, a determined government can always generate higher spending and hence positive inflation.

Of course, the U.S. government is not going to print money and distribute it willy-nilly (although as we will see later, there are practical policies that approximate this behavior).............The fact that the Fed bears no credit risk places a limit on how far down the Fed can drive the cost of capital to private nonbank borrowers. For various reasons the Fed might well be reluctant to incur credit risk, as would happen if it bought assets directly from the private nonbank sector. However, should this additional measure become necessary, the Fed could of course always go to the Congress to ask for the requisite powers to buy private assets.

Ben "The Helicopter Commander" Bernanke - Deflation, making sure it doesn't happen here.

38 posted on 12/11/2006 9:11:49 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Of course there is.

No there isn't.

If you mean the balance of payments must always be equal, that's only true in a strictly book keeping sense.

Yes. In the sense that 100=100. In the sense that 0=0. In the sense that balance means balance.

But you can have specific kinds of deficits within the balance of payments,

Hooray!!! Took less than 3 months for you to figure out that the line in the article, "weighed by the U.S. balance of payments deficit" was incorrect.

I would have referred to the current account deficit.

Which would have been correct. Glad I finally got you to understand the idiocy of the article. There may be hope for you yet. In the meantime, I'll continue to point out when you say or post inaccurate financial data.

39 posted on 12/11/2006 9:12:52 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: kinoxi

I said nothing about US goods. asian goods, chinese ones specifically, are inferior to European and US and Japanese goods.

buy some french made glassware, then buy some chinese made stuff. sure, the french stuff costs more. buy a makita or porter cable drill, then buy a chinese drill from sears. european clothing is the best in the world. so are their large home appliances.


40 posted on 12/11/2006 9:15:07 PM PST by oceanview
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