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Joel Osteen: The Smiling Preacher (God Wants You To Have Money)
ABC News ^ | December 14, 2004

Posted on 12/14/2006 9:49:46 AM PST by Gamecock

He is rich, famous, handsome, and adored by millions of fans on television each week, but he's not an actor. He's an evangelical pastor from Houston named Joel Osteen.

They call him "the smiling preacher," and Osteen has a lot to smile about. He's the head of the largest church in America, the author of a best-selling book, and the religious leader for a following of faithful, often frenzied fans.

He's achieved all that with an approach critics call "Christianity lite" — no sin, no suffering, no sacrifice, replacing fire and brimstone with a motivational message.

Barbara Walters asked Osteen why that message strikes such a chord with people. "My message is that God is a good God," said Osteen. "And if we all … have the right attitude, he'll take us places that we've never dreamed of."

Certainly Osteen is in a place he never dreamed of: Houston's Lakewood Church collects more than $75 million a year. The congregation is so large that Osteen had to move his church into a former pro basketball arena.

"We're just amazed to be here," Osteen said. "I grew up coming to watch basketball games here. … This is where the Rockets used to play. Every time I come in here, I just feel humbled, and it's been an amazing journey."

That journey started modestly, when Osteen's father began the church in the back of a Houston feed store. For the six Osteen siblings, it was a family affair. Never interested in preaching, Osteen worked on the television and marketing side. But when his father passed away, stepped up to the pulpit and began to spread a unifying message that avoids a number of polarizing issues. Walters asked Osteen why he stayed away from controversial subjects like gay marriage, abortion or politics.

"Sometimes, I think if you get away from what you're called to do, it's more of a distraction," he said.

Osteen has been criticized for focusing too much on the almighty dollar. Walters asked him about preaching what is called "the prosperity gospel."

"I think the word rich is all relative," Osteen said. "I think down and deep in our hearts, we believe that God does want us to live the abundant life that we can. To me, prosperity is health, good relationships … and money, of course, is part of it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: angeloflight; christianitylite; joelosteen; osteen; povertyissatanic; walters
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1 posted on 12/14/2006 9:49:48 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Completely disgusting. I can feel the flames on this guy, already.


2 posted on 12/14/2006 9:51:43 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; The Ghost of FReepers Past; ...
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"To me, prosperity is health, good relationships … and money, of course, is part of it." Joel Osteen

Well, that explains what happened to these guys:


3 posted on 12/14/2006 9:53:22 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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To: Gamecock
It amazes me how in all of Osteen's messages, the money part is always made an issue. Like God wants you to be poor an unhappy.

I will go passage for passage with anyone who believes Osteen is incorrect in telling people that God wants you to be happy and abundant.
4 posted on 12/14/2006 9:54:16 AM PST by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: Gamecock

No, God wants us to serve Him, be rich in Him, and yes He will provide for us, but not promised that if we did all that He says that we will be wealthy on earth! He speaks of riches in heaven awaiting us, but not riches on earth!


5 posted on 12/14/2006 9:55:43 AM PST by Halls (God, please grant me the serenity to accept what I can not change....)
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6 posted on 12/14/2006 9:56:41 AM PST by gaijin
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That whole idea of a prosperity Gospel reeks to no end. I can just imagine how this false doctrine would play with the persecuted Christians in Korea, China and in poverty stricken countries in Africa.
7 posted on 12/14/2006 9:56:47 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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Yea, that's right. Two thousand years after his son's death, God wants you brooding and telling others that living a happy and abundant life is wrong. \rolling eyes
8 posted on 12/14/2006 9:58:14 AM PST by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: Vision

To my 7


9 posted on 12/14/2006 9:58:59 AM PST by Gamecock (Pelagianism is the natural heresy of zealous Christians who are not interested in theology. J.I.P.)
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To: Gamecock

Hey! Where's the Angel of Light Alert?


10 posted on 12/14/2006 9:59:25 AM PST by CAPTAINSUPERMARVELMAN
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Five words in and I'm already disagreeing.

Osteen is NOT handsome. He has horse teeth that would make George Thorogood and Tom Petty jealous.


11 posted on 12/14/2006 10:01:15 AM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Gamecock

The religion that demonizes those who create wealth is not one I would be a part of.


12 posted on 12/14/2006 10:03:11 AM PST by L98Fiero (The media is a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: Gamecock
God certainly works thru suffering, at times extreme suffering.

However, God also brings prosperity through the capitalist system since it rewards those who rely on their own, individual efforts.

Some of these televangelist types get their message confused in trying to figure out how God works the two together.

13 posted on 12/14/2006 10:03:26 AM PST by what's up
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You are right. Our richness is our faith in the Lord and we prosper in His promises to us. We have the wealth of undeserved grace and the unlimited gift of mercy. God is a generous God who created an entire world for our delight. He never ceases to love and care for His children. He died freely on the cross bearing our sins. Paying the ransom which we could never meet.

There can only be on Lord in our life. If I worship God because I believe He is a cosmic vending machine I make him servant to my demands. To do so is to make Him less than Lord. That is a sin of no small proportion.


14 posted on 12/14/2006 10:03:27 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Vision
I will go passage for passage with anyone who believes Osteen is incorrect in telling people that God wants you to be happy and abundant

Thanks for saying it better than I would have. A former pastor said that if you are a genuine follower of Christ you'll "never be destitute." Not, you'll be filthy rich, but that God will make provisions on your behalf.

Funny that so many here are Osteen bashers and will eat up this from the MSM (ABC in this case).

15 posted on 12/14/2006 10:04:18 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Vision

God wants you brooding and telling others that living a happy and abundant life is wrong

Thats not what was said. and you know it.


16 posted on 12/14/2006 10:04:44 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Gamecock

Bingo!


17 posted on 12/14/2006 10:05:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Vision
Have Olsteen preach his message in Haiti.
18 posted on 12/14/2006 10:07:03 AM PST by fungoking
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To: Xenalyte
He has horse teeth that would make George Thorogood and Tom Petty jealous.

Probably could eat an apple through a chain link fence to boot.
19 posted on 12/14/2006 10:07:04 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: LtKerst

God doesn't want you to be rich. He wants you to be obedient.


20 posted on 12/14/2006 10:07:19 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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