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THE NEW TRIANGULATION (DICK MORRIS ALERT)
VOTE.COM ^ | December 29, 2006 | DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Posted on 01/02/2007 3:11:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Is there something cyclical, but nevertheless extraordinary, happening in American politics these days? Are we moving from a period of partisan confrontation and division, to one that values consensus and seeks more unity among our public figures?

Otherwise, how can we account for the unusual persistence with which moderates like Rudy Guiliani and Senator John McCain are holding their large leads in the Republican primary electorate? Or, the surprising surge of perceived-moderate Senator Barack Obama into second place in the Democratic field?

The conservative right is trailing ignominiously in the polls for the Republican nomination, while Hillary is tied with the combined vote share of Obama and Edwards in the Democratic field. Never mind that the Republican voters don't realize how liberal McCain and Guiliani really are, or how left-wing Obama's voting record -- all two years of it -- indicates he might be. The fact is, that moderates in both parties seem to doing very well.

In 2005 and early 2006, it seemed that the partisan divisions would continue and exacerbate. The right was energized by the debates over gay marriage and illegal immigration, and the left licked its chops after beating Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman in the Democratic primary. But Lieberman ended up winning, anti-immigration zealots like J.D. Hayworth lost, and moderate Democrats won most of the House seats that switched parties in 2006. The center showed new energy.

American politics, of course, alternates between periods of division and consensus. Because our democracy works, we explore new political issues and challenges through polarizing debate (such as would never happen in Japan, for example). After the debate has raged for a while, we come to a national consensus embracing the best of each side and move on (unlike Italy or France).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; bipartisanship; concensus; defeatocrats; democrats; gingrich; gop; johnmccain; moderation; republicans; rino; rudyguiliani; toesucker
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Morris trying to get back in bed with the democrats, as he thinks they'll win in 2008.
1 posted on 01/02/2007 3:11:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, sounds like someone is scurrying to get back on the good side of whoever's in power.


2 posted on 01/02/2007 3:14:50 PM PST by sinanju (s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More compromise is what is killing the GOP.

What the GOP needs to do is be brave and DEFEND the truth. EDUCATE these ignoramuses. Stop pretending the truth isn't there. Demoncrat ideology doesn't work.
3 posted on 01/02/2007 3:16:35 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dick Morris needs to go back to fantasizing about sucking on Hillary's toes. He's a chameleon when it comes to politics. He has no shame. He'll do anything for a buck.
4 posted on 01/02/2007 3:18:51 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Toesucker in '08'?


5 posted on 01/02/2007 3:19:13 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Morris trying to get back in bed with the democrats...

Is he looking for someone's toe to suck??

6 posted on 01/02/2007 3:19:20 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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Dick morris is seriously in Hilliary's pocket, she is currently getting hosed in the polls.

He has to say something...


7 posted on 01/02/2007 3:19:40 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"...anti-immigration zealots like J.D. Hayworth lost"

Anyone with convictions is a "zealot".

Morris is doing his own "triangulation" for clients.


8 posted on 01/02/2007 3:24:41 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...we opted for the left with Clinton in 1992"

We got Clinton because of Perot's antics not because we opted for the left, IMHO.

9 posted on 01/02/2007 3:26:03 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP nominee will be determined by the surge. If the surge succeeds, McCain will be the nominee and most likely win the election. If the surge fails, McCain is finished and it doesn't matter who the nominee is as the dems will have wrapped up the election.

In a way, it's a dilemma. I want Iraq to succeed, but I know if it does than it means that McCain is the next President. I don't know if that's a worthwhile trade.

Rudy has no shot. The chance of a pro choice, pro gay rights, pro immigration, anti gun, northeasterner getting the GOP nomination is zero, as in none, as in not happening.


10 posted on 01/02/2007 3:29:23 PM PST by jeltz25
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I knew it was curtains for the republicans during the mid term elections when Morris started to talk about the republicans making a comeback in the last two weeks of the election.

Morris might be right 30% of the time, MAX!

If he's talking about your guy winning, BE WORRIED!
11 posted on 01/02/2007 3:35:25 PM PST by SomeoneNeedsToSayIt
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"Morris trying to get back in bed with the democrats, as he thinks they'll win in 2008."

And he will be right unless Conservatives get off their butts and do something other then roll over. Morris is a commentator for the right. But he is a stretegist for the left.

They will welcome him back with open arms.


12 posted on 01/02/2007 3:39:31 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: nmh

How did this toe sucking thing get started? I'd google it but I'm afraid of the results. Did he ever say he does this? Did someone who knows him say it? Is it a metaphor that took on a life of its own?


13 posted on 01/02/2007 3:42:02 PM PST by Graymatter
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Dick Morris "scurry"? Why ever would you think that?

I mean, he's not slimy, narcissistic, egotistical, shady, reptilian, self-important or anything like that is he? /sar
14 posted on 01/02/2007 3:44:08 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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How did this toe sucking thing get started?

Who knows? Some on FR have little else to say about Morris other than calling him a "toesucker." Real imiginitive, eh?

15 posted on 01/02/2007 3:46:16 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: 1066AD
I'd guess it's more like we got Perot's antics because the Leftists behind Clinton were able to also set Perot up, with some mix of carrot, stick and flattery.
16 posted on 01/02/2007 3:48:06 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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How did this toe sucking thing get started?

Who knows?

Are you seriously saying you don't know what that is about?

17 posted on 01/02/2007 3:49:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Morris is half-correct.

The smarter Dems realize they can't win with a candidate who has an established voting record, so they trot out a candidate like Obama who they can claim is a 'moderate', only because he hasn't yet publicly taken a position on much of anything.

On the Republican side, it happens that the two candidates with the best name recognition at the present aren't from the more conservative wing of the party.


18 posted on 01/02/2007 3:49:32 PM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Morris understands something that too many others do not. That is, the special interest cabal that actually run this country, who buy and sell politicians by the bushel, always want someone in office who they can do business with. That is why he takes Hillary seriously.


19 posted on 01/02/2007 4:01:20 PM PST by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet

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NEVER FORGET


Not long after the Attacks of 9/11...

...DICK MORRIS was the 1st CLINTON White House insider to publically admit on the air that BILL CLINTON personally, through SANDY BERGER,

...refused 3 free offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to bring to American Custody our No. 1 terrorist enemy OSAMA bin LADEN...

...before he could hit us real hard here at home.


Resulting in:

9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, Rest In Peace

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361



NEVER FORGET

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20 posted on 01/02/2007 4:18:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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