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1 posted on 01/06/2007 10:20:17 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

MC5 BUMP!


2 posted on 01/06/2007 10:20:51 AM PST by PGalt
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To: firebrand

The Tri-State Chapter might be interested in this one.


3 posted on 01/06/2007 10:21:15 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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But how about those who live there?

In order to go on vacation, we still have to get our car out of the garage, drive it to our apartment, and load up the luggage.

Most sensible people do this on Sunday morning, when there is hardly any traffic.


5 posted on 01/06/2007 10:43:02 AM PST by proxy_user
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I noticed the article didn't mention it, skated around the issue, really, but the "problem" is not the working folks trying to get to/from work everyday, its the legions of unworking stiffs who have nothing better to do but get in the car by themselves and tool around the city, getting in the way of everyone else who is trying to earn a living...just because they can. This is a tough issue, these folks buy gas and pay the same gas taxes as everyone else, but the commuter in me really despises them. I would gladly pay more to get people who don't really need to be on the roads, off the roads and out of my way. But I think a better way would be to get more trucks off the road during peak hours...at least here in California, that would be great.


7 posted on 01/06/2007 11:02:17 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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heh heh heh


9 posted on 01/06/2007 11:19:23 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"It's hardly possible to conceive," wrote journalist Ray Stannard Baker at the time, "the appearance of a crowded wholesale street in the day of the automobile vehicle." He thought cars were too small and quiet to cause traffic.

Journalists! What don't they know! 

10 posted on 01/06/2007 11:37:43 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I guess I'm going to be an iconoclast on this one. If New Yorkers want to try this, let them. It's their city and they should be able to run it the way they want. In my understanding of the American system, the states and the local communities are like separate "experiments," trying out this idea and that, as a way to weed out bad ideas and introduce good ideas to the nation as a whole. (I forget the precise term used by one of the founders about the states being "experiments," and I'm sure someone will flame me as a reminder.)

Let New York go ahead and obligate drivers to pay tolls south of 60th street. I grew up in Connecticut - one joker once suggested that the license plate read "The Toll Booth State" - and tolls were a pain but they didn't kill us. We'll see what happens in 10 years.


11 posted on 01/06/2007 11:45:33 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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I don't think this measure would have as much impact on residents of the outer boroughs as people might think. If you go out on the streets of midtown Manhattan today, it quickly becomes apparent that the single biggest culprit in the city's congestion problem is the taxi cab industry. Some years ago when the taxi drivers staged a two-day strike to protest their low fares and working conditions, there was so little traffic on the west side of Manhattan that it was almost delightful to walk around there.


12 posted on 01/06/2007 12:01:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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... America's first auto accident took place here in 1896 (the driver was from Massachusetts) ...

A 110 year old tradition. Wow!

23 posted on 01/07/2007 8:39:42 AM PST by relee
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