Posted on 01/08/2007 12:01:59 PM PST by presidio9
Meet the new players in the great American debate about values: Ryan, a 25-year-old newlywed, who is helping other men find husbands; Doug, 50, who is helping gay men in San Francisco create their ideal community; and Chris, 36, whose pursuit of happiness has switched from chasing New York hotties to seeking down-home enlightenment.
They and others across the country are engaging gay men in conversations about their goals and values -- both personal and collective -- and challenging the sense of who gay men are and what makes their community. This introspection is happening as gay men are able to move away from the AIDS crisis, which had demanded their full attention for two decades, and now have the time and energy to look inward, these leaders say.
"A bunch of us went around the city for eight or nine months talking to as many people as we could, asking them what issues are important, what they think of life as gay men, what they think of San Francisco," said Doug Sebesta, who worked in public health and HIV services before he and a few other men started the San Francisco Gay Men's Community Initiative in June 2004. "We kept hearing the same thing over and over again -- basically, that San Francisco sucks."
Sebesta said that as the community
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Brokeback Mountain alert.
Which is, after all, why they're there.
Love means never having to say your ass hurts.
Gag me with a spoon!!!!
There is tremendous opportunities in Muslim countries.
"We kept hearing the same thing over and over again -- basically, that San Francisco sucks."
Isn't that what they want, something that sucks?
"Chris, 36, whose pursuit of happiness has switched from chasing New York hotties to seeking down-home enlightenment".
...I assume that "hotties" are other men. So "Chris" will seek AIDS at home instead of a gay bar full of "hotties"?
"Many gay men are fed up with people who want to tell them how to behave, and they side with the community they know."
I read this as, "Gay men want to be the only group who is immune to moral judgement by society so they hang around with people who make no moral judgements at all."
These values?
You read it correctly.
Oh no.... deepening! Who could have known?
"A bunch of us went around the city for eight or nine months talking to as many people as we could, asking them what issues are important, what they think of life as gay men, what they think of San Francisco,"
...and most of the guys said, "it's so gay here, it's even too gay for me! We may as well change the name from San Francisco to 'Penisville'".
I prefer "City of Fruits & Nuts."
more movement? they should try women
So, all these "gay" men have realized that their lives are unfulfilled, they have no normal emotional relationships and no sense of place. WHO CAN BE SURPRISED BY THIS?? When you define yourself by a deviant behavior, what exactly do you expect??
These are sad, lost souls.
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