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Deroy Murdock: Giuliani's social liberalism overstated
UNION LEADER ^ | 13 JANUARY 2007 | DEROY MURDOCK

Posted on 01/14/2007 8:22:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Deroy Murdock: Giuliani's social liberalism overstated

By DEROY MURDOCK
Commentary
23 hours, 19 minutes ago

LIKE A STACK of scratched records, pundits repeatedly dismiss Rudolph W. Giuliani's Presidential prospects because of his "social liberalism." True, the former New York mayor's views on abortion, guns and gays (despite his opposition to same-sex marriage) clash with those of many socially conservative Republican primary voters.

However, socio-cons care about more than just these three important matters. On school choice, welfare reform, adoption, and quality of life, evangelicals cannot quibble with Giuliani's achievements. His Bush-like immigration proposals are no more liberal than the President's. Socio-cons also like to see violent criminals incarcerated and terrorists incinerated. No rightist calls Giuliani leftist on that.

Significantly, Giuliani can hold his head up high as the GOP hopeful with the finest legacy on racial preferences -- a key issue to conservatives of every hue.

In 1993, Giuliani ran and won on the slogan "One Standard, One City." These words guided his administration.

In his first month, Mayor Giuliani scrapped New York's 20 percent set-asides for minority- and female-owned contractors, and a 10 percent price premium that City Hall let such companies charge above the bids of white, male competitors.

Instead, Giuliani offered all contractors workshops on how to prepare more competitive applications. Some projects were subdivided to qualify newer, less-capitalized bidders.

Giuliani also padlocked the city's Balkan-style offices of African-American/Carribean Affairs, Asian Affairs, European-American Affairs, Gay Community Affairs, Jewish Community Affairs and Latino Affairs.

Through these actions alone -- in Gotham, not Green Bay -- Giuliani enacted more equality before the law than the GOP Congress even debated in the 12 years between the 1994 Republican Revolution and 2006's Republican rout.

Giuliani promoted other policies that happened to benefit minorities while advancing his colorblind philosophy:

"America's mayor" did not manage all this in lily-white Provo, Utah, or right-wing Colorado Springs. Rudolph W. Giuliani courageously accomplished these things in a largely minority city notorious for its liberalism. That's leadership.

Deroy Murdock is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; deroymurdock; elections; giuliani; rudy
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1 posted on 01/14/2007 8:22:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

at some point, there will be some reasoned debate in this process, some answers to questions. it will have to evolve from where it is now - as evidenced by what a shortly expect to be posted on this thread - the picture of Rudy in the dress.


2 posted on 01/14/2007 8:25:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Well, that clears everything up - NOT!


3 posted on 01/14/2007 8:28:47 PM PST by don-o (There is NO free lunch! Visualize no Free Republic. Not pretty is it? Do the Monthly!)
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To: oceanview

Oh, they'll post the dress picture. That's the "Bush's Fault" post of the Rudy threads.


4 posted on 01/14/2007 8:30:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
His Bush-like immigration proposals are no more liberal than the President's.

True, but the President has exposed himself as a liberal, and would be unacceptable to conservatives, were he capable of running for a third term. Rudy has never pretended to be a conservative, though he is conservative on some issues.

I like Rudy a lot, and if he were the nominee, could support him (as opposed to someone like McCain, who would be another Nixonian type Republican). He'd be great in the war on islamic fascism, and he'd be good on judges, criminals and a lot of issues conservatives care about, even though he would make us angry some of the time. But I will work hard to try to find someone conservative to support in this election in the primaries, and hope that someone good comes to the fore. My fear is that only a conservative candidate can be elected, and that person must be able to articulate his views to the populace, not just spout his beliefs, because he will have to overcome a hostile press. A squish will lose a big chunk of conservatives to apathy, and the electorate is close enough that the election will swing to Hillary.

5 posted on 01/14/2007 8:31:13 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Keep talking Elroy, Delroy, whatever you name is. I still am not voting for Rudi or McScream. So you can can it.


6 posted on 01/14/2007 8:32:23 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Dimocrats stand for everything I hate, despise and wish to see destroyed, including dimocrats!)
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To: oceanview

"the picture of Rudy in the dress."

Well, you have to admit, it was rather understated, for a man in a dress.

Now, the tophat, short shorts and tails in the Can-Can line, THAT was over the top. Very impolitic. Should have limited himself to subdued pearls and a mink wrap.


7 posted on 01/14/2007 8:35:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
However, socio-cons care about more than just these three important matters. On school choice, welfare reform, adoption, and quality of life, evangelicals cannot quibble with Giuliani's achievements. His Bush-like immigration proposals are no more liberal than the President's. Socio-cons also like to see violent criminals incarcerated and terrorists incinerated. No rightist calls Giuliani leftist on that.

Abortion, guns, and gays are the domestic triad (perhaps immigration is interchangeable with gays). School choice and welfare reform go a long way but I don't think they would make up for the big three in most people's minds.
8 posted on 01/14/2007 8:40:28 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: oceanview
at some point, there will be some reasoned debate in this process, some answers to questions. it will have to evolve from where it is now - as evidenced by what a shortly expect to be posted on this thread - the picture of Rudy in the dress.

Liberal Rudy lovers dismiss the dress photos posted in some of these threads as if they were some sort of ad hominem attack. What they fail to accept is that some of the photos were taken at a fundraiser for a radical gay group. In addition, he agreed to appear on the pornographic gay Showtime series "Queer as Folk" in drag to raise money for a project of that same gay group. His repeated public appearance in drag does give one pause before casting a vote for him as it says something of his lack of character and the dignity required in a President. The reasons that he appeared in drag say a great deal about his support for the radical gay agenda.

If it was a front running Democrat candidate who had this record of drag appearances and support for radical gay groups then just about every FReeper would be condemning him. But because he has an (R) after his name, you see many FReepers making the lamest excuses for his shameful behavior and issue position.

9 posted on 01/14/2007 8:44:44 PM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

yes, the event raised money for 9/11 families. that was the "project of that same gay group" you refer to.

as I said, serious debate will eventually win out here. and those who still think pat robertson can be elected president - can't be reached anyway.


11 posted on 01/14/2007 8:58:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Defiant

How has Bush exposed himself as a liberal? It seems everything he has done was stated when he campaigned for the presidency.


12 posted on 01/14/2007 9:00:15 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

All of these threads concerning Republican candidate's are crap as they are based on the past. I am not dismissing the past, Oh No. Remember, we are dealing with politicians though, let's wait and see what the candidates have to say when the questions are asked. I'd bet there will be changes in philosophy from prior positions. Tumbleweeds all, the nature of the beast.
Bottom line is who do you trust to do the best for this COUNTRY!


13 posted on 01/14/2007 9:03:04 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
His Bush-like immigration proposals are no more liberal than the President's.

As if that's something to be proud of...

14 posted on 01/14/2007 9:09:53 PM PST by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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To: oceanview
Rudy in the dress

At least he's prettier than Helen Thomas.

15 posted on 01/14/2007 9:54:46 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Romney si! Rudy no!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Giuliani's social liberalism overstated

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Rudy Giuliani [right]
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Ah, it's just a comedy sketch show...

16 posted on 01/14/2007 10:19:01 PM PST by jdm
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To: Jaysun
Abortion, guns, and gays are the domestic triad...

I don't see the Second Amendment as a social issue, it is a national security issue just like the borders are.

I also want the homosexuals and abortionists away from my kids and out of the schools. I don't want those filth flushing their futures down the toilet and weakening the will of the young ones to defend this nation.

17 posted on 01/15/2007 2:04:44 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don't think the author does a very good job of making the case that Rudy Giuliani's social liberalism is "overstated."


18 posted on 01/15/2007 4:14:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Conservatives' credulity overestimated."


19 posted on 01/15/2007 11:30:21 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

BUMP


20 posted on 01/15/2007 5:16:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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