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Pennsylvania launches health insurance plan
Yahoo! News ^ | 7/17/07 | Jon Hurdle

Posted on 01/17/2007 4:19:41 PM PST by libertarianPA

HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania (Reuters) - Pennsylvania became the fifth U.S. state to seek universal health coverage for its citizens on Wednesday when it unveiled a plan to provide medical insurance for some three-quarters of a million residents who currently have none.

Along with other states including Massachusetts and California, Pennsylvania is joining a growing movement among U.S. states to tackle the problem of residents without health care insurance, which according to some estimates number as many as 46 million Americans or about 15 percent of the population.

The problem of uninsured medical costs, often left to be covered at taxpayer expense, has long been seen as a task for the federal government to tackle, and the issue frequently arises during political campaigns for the White House and Congress.

Amid rising costs, the United States spends about 16 percent of gross domestic product on health care, significantly higher than nations such as Canada, at 9.7 percent, and France, at 9.5 percent, which have nationalized health systems, according to the National Coalition on Healthcare, which seeks universal coverage and cost containment in the U.S. system.

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell said the plan, called Cover All Pennsylvanians, would provide affordable basic health coverage to small businesses and uninsured individuals through the private health insurance market at a time when many cannot afford it.

"Employers and individuals have virtually no chance to keep up with the spiraling cost of health care," Rendell said at a news conference.

Companies would be eligible if they have fewer than 50 employees and if workers earn less than the average state annual wage of $39,000.

The cost to those employers would be about $130 a month per employee. Also, qualified individuals could buy into the plan for between $10 and $70 per month.

Rendell, a Democrat, said he hopes to implement the plan by January 2008. He said it would require the passage of 47 pieces of legislation and numerous rule changes to become a reality.

Unlike residents of Massachusetts and California, individuals would not be required to buy health insurance but Pennsylvania might introduce a mandate after the first three years, depending upon how many people buy into it voluntarily, officials said.

The plan will be paid for in part by a 3 percent payroll tax on all companies that do not provide health insurance. An exemption would be made for the first 50 employees in the first year, a number that will decline in subsequent years.

The cost, which officials said would be specified in the upcoming budget, also would be met by federal matching funds, an increase in a cigarette tax and a tax on smokeless tobacco products. Rendell said the impact on the budget would be limited.

Brian Kelly, director of government affairs for the Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry, said there was likely to be some "skepticism and concern" among the chamber's members toward the plan to tax payrolls of companies that do not offer health insurance.

But the Hospital and Health System Association of Pennsylvania welcomed the plan, saying in a statement it was "encouraged by the governor's efforts to address health care coverage."

Health insurance premiums in Pennsylvania have risen 75.6 percent since 2000, compared with a 17 percent rise in inflation and a 13 percent increase in the median wage, Rendell said.

Maine and Vermont also have taken steps to provide health care coverage for residents.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: edrendell; fasteddie; fateddie; healthcare; pennsylvania; rendell; slickeddie; universal
to tackle the problem of residents without health care insurance, which according to some estimates number as many as 46 million Americans or about 15 percent of the population.

Typical liberal journalist. Doesn't give the whole story. Doesn't talk about the fact that this group of 46 million fluctuates and most don't stay in the group very long.

The problem of uninsured medical costs, often left to be covered at taxpayer expense, has long been seen as a task for the federal government to tackle, and the issue frequently arises during political campaigns for the White House and Congress.

The problem is government regulation. Take the government out and make people share the cost of their health, and you'll see prices drop and insurance options rise.

I'm really afraid it's over. We're only a few years away from becoming Europe. Hello high taxes and high unemployment!
1 posted on 01/17/2007 4:19:43 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA
Somebody let me know when one of these works.
2 posted on 01/17/2007 4:27:58 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: libertarianPA
Governor Schwarzenegger Should Go to Nashville
3 posted on 01/17/2007 4:29:32 PM PST by lowbridge ("I wonder if he's in touch with the critics out there, like Matt Damon, the actor" -Chris Matthews)
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To: libertarianPA
Thank god I wasn't born here and am in the process of leaving. Let's see: Exorbitant school taxes and your kids are dumber than boxes of rocks. Road tolls and some of the worst roads in the nation as rated by Overdrive magazine. If you're paying all of this money dontcha think ya should get somethin' for it?
4 posted on 01/17/2007 4:35:11 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: libertarianPA
Unlike residents of Massachusetts and California, individuals would not be required to buy health insurance but Pennsylvania might introduce a mandate after the first three years, depending upon how many people buy into it voluntarily, officials said.

I predict none.

5 posted on 01/17/2007 4:41:41 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: msnimje
Somebody let me know when one of these works.

Don't wait around.

6 posted on 01/17/2007 4:56:30 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: samm1148
(Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)

What is that car emission test fee for? The air! They thought of everything. That's why I moved to Florida 20 years ago.

7 posted on 01/17/2007 5:13:47 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: libertarianPA

You are so right. People have been lulled into this idea that the be all and end all is government and now we are beyond the point of no return. The belief in limited government is in full retreat.


8 posted on 01/17/2007 5:14:42 PM PST by Russ
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To: moonman

It's amazing. Even when you buy a BRAND NEW car, you still have to go have it inspected for emissions and pay $50. I would love to know exactly how many brand new cars expel harmful pollutants.

The environmentalists have single handedly made life more expensive for us all.


9 posted on 01/17/2007 5:17:05 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: moonman
Holy crap! You just replied to me I was replying to you on another thread. Is that weird or not?
10 posted on 01/17/2007 5:26:43 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: libertarianPA

There will never be enough taxpayers to pay for all the medical care people are willing to accept for "free". Each of these state plans (MA, CA, PA ...) will rapidly collapse under their own costly weight, then the states will say they need a federal bail out. No one is "entitled" to medical care, any more than food, clothing, housing or retirement income. These state plans are socialist idiocy. Apparently the politicians haven't learned one damned thing from the economic collapse of the USSR.

Instead of more government involvement in medicine, there should be less. For example, people should have the freedom to opt out of Medicare (without paying a penalty or tax for doings so). Medicaid should be shut down altogether, and turned over to the states so they can decide how much they want to pay (without federal taxpayers).

Congress is increasingly a socialist body, threatening the survival of the republic.


11 posted on 01/17/2007 5:31:55 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: pleikumud
There will never be enough taxpayers to pay for all the medical care people are willing to accept for "free". Each of these state plans (MA, CA, PA ...) will rapidly collapse under their own costly weight, then the states will say they need a federal bail out.

While this is all true, I must say, it doesn't seem to matter. We have all the evidence in front of us - Canada, Cuba, Russia, most of Europe - none of them have economically viable health care systems, at least not without a cost of high taxes, high unemployement, and low GDP. Even our own system has people waiting for procedures and denied claims - all thanks to government interference and a culture that's not willing to share in the responsibility for their own health.

When I heard about states that were doing their own universal health care plan, like Tennessee. I thought that as soon as the country sees what disasters they are, they will run far away from any inkling of a national program. But in spite of the evidence, there seems to be no stopping this juggernaut. We're certainly not getting any interference from Republicans.

I like to think the rest of America will wait about ten years and see what transpires with MA's, CA's, and PA's systems. But like I said, the momentum is picking up. You can bet this is going to be a HOT issue in '08. Then we'll see how deep America is ready to sink into this socialist quagmire by who they put into the White House.
12 posted on 01/17/2007 5:41:04 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: libertarianPA

It is a sham. Here's the real kick in the face ... if faulty emission equipment would prove too costly to repair, well, pay a higher test fee and we will allow you to drive that smoking, polluting, accident-about-to-happen wreck. As if paying that higher tax fee somehow makes the air cleaner.


13 posted on 01/17/2007 5:44:23 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: libertarianPA
The problem of uninsured medical costs, often left to be covered at taxpayer expense...

And this universal insurance would be paid for by...???

14 posted on 01/17/2007 5:58:34 PM PST by smokinleroy
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To: smokinleroy

Watch it young man! That's logic you're foolin' around with!


15 posted on 01/17/2007 6:04:04 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: Russ
People have been lulled into this idea that the be all and end all is government and now we are beyond the point of no return.

Just as predicted, and worked toward, years ago.


"Democracy is indispensable to socialism."
-Vladimir Lenin

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
-Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU.

"The goal of socialism is communism."
-Vladimir Lenin

Although I've had these quotes on my home page for some time, I found this very interesting site while doing some research today.

Controlled Media Inc.

16 posted on 01/17/2007 6:22:40 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: libertarianPA
....as long as Texas stays out of the health insurance for all business I really don't care if the socialist states of America tax their residents to death. Perhaps the business/resident shift to the southwest will continue until the northeast and Kalifornia have 10 votes in the electoral college and 20 members in the house. Damn fools think everything can be solved by girlie men like Arnold and Barney Frank. Let em screw themselves into the ground.
17 posted on 01/17/2007 6:27:53 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: libertarianPA
Conservatives need to speak out on this. Universal healthcare is socialism, plain and simple. The best cure for healthcare is the free market.

States & the feds can start by completely eliminating Medicaid. Next the tax code should be simplified and lowered. Then government mandates, regulations should be lifted.

People will have money to buy their own health insurance.

18 posted on 01/17/2007 6:28:32 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

20-25 years ago I purchased my own health insurance when I changed jobs. It was $82.00/mo.


19 posted on 01/17/2007 7:03:08 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: pleikumud
Congress is increasingly a socialist body, threatening the survival of the republic.

Yep. Check out "Health care for All" at this link.

http://www.dsausa.org/resources.html

At one time there was a list of CONgresscritters that were members. A FReeper, can't remember which one, started spreading the list around and it got pulled.

Also, have you noticed that after the election the DemonRATS ordered everyone to call them the Democratics? Everyone has dutifully acquiesced, Tony Snow, Ann Coulter all the media writers and talkers?
20 posted on 01/17/2007 9:00:15 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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