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Giuliani's Abortion Record Should Hearten Pro-Lifers
Human Events ^ | 1/18/20007 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by Dark Skies

As pro-lifers prepare to mark Monday’s 34th anniversary of the Supreme Court’s Roe vs. Wade decision, many wonder whether they could support former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani for president despite his pro-choice views. While some of Giuliani’s statements on abortion make pro-lifers fret, they should find his record surprisingly reassuring.

“I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said in South Carolina’s The State newspaper last November 21. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

Nevertheless, Giuliani’s pro-life critics point to his April 5, 2001 address to the National Abortion Rights Action League’s “Champions of Choice” luncheon in Manhattan.

“As a Republican who supports a woman’s right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here,” Giuliani said. He added: “The government shouldn’t dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.”

“I have a daughter now,” Giuliani told TV’s Phil Donahue during his unsuccessful 1989 mayoral campaign. Giuliani continued: “I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views…I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman -- my daughter or any other woman -- would be that in this particular circumstance, to have an abortion, I’d support that. I’d give my daughter the money for it.”

But did Giuliani’s mayoral deeds match such words?

According to the state Office of Vital Statistics, total abortions performed in New York City between 1993 (just before Giuliani arrived) and 2001 (as he departed) fell from 103,997 to 86,466 -- a 16.86 percent decrease. This upended a 10.32 percent increase compared to eight years before Giuliani, when 1985 witnessed 94,270 abortions.

What about Medicaid-financed abortions? Under Giuliani, such taxpayer-funded feticides dropped 22.85 percent, from 45,006 in 1993 to 34,722 in 2001.

The abortion ratio also slid from 890 terminations per 1,000 live births in 1993 to 767 in 2001, a 13.82 percent tail-off. This far outpaced the 2.84 percent reduction from 1985’s ratio of 916 to 1993’s 890. While abortions remained far more common in Gotham than across America (2001’s U.S. abortion ratio was 246), they diminished during Giuliani’s tenure, as they did nationally.

Giuliani essentially verbalized his pro-choice beliefs while avoiding policies that would have impeded abortion’s generally downward trajectory.

New York pro-lifers concede that Giuliani never attempted anything like what current Mayor Michael Bloomberg promulgated in July 2002. Eight city-run hospitals added abortion instruction to the training expected of their OB-GYN medical residents. Only those with moral objections may refuse this requirement.

Giuliani could have issued such rules, but never did.

Interestingly enough, after Giuliani left, Medicaid abortions under Bloomberg increased 5.19 percent from 34,722 in 2001 to 36,523 in 2003.

Asked if he could cite any Giuliani initiative that advanced abortion, New York State Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long told me, “I don’t remember, and I don’t think so.” He added: “I never remember seeing him promote the issue, to my knowledge.”

“I like him a lot -- although he doesn’t share my particular point of view on social issues,” televangelist Pat Robertson said May 1, 2005 on ABC’s “This Week.” “He did a super job running the city of New York and I think he’d make a good president.”

If Giuliani can sway Pat Robertson, can he attract other pro-lifers? Short of dizzying himself and others with a 180-degree reversal from a pro-choice to a pro-life posture, Giuliani should embrace parental-notification rules, so minors who seek abortions need their folks’ permission, as they now do for ear piercing. He should oppose partial-birth abortion, which even Democrats such as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and liberal stalwart Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont have voted to prohibit.

Similarly, Giuliani should propose that Uncle Sam exit embryonic-stem-cell research laboratories and instead let drug companies -- not government -- finance such embryocidal experiments, if they must. He also could pledge to nominate constitutionalist judges skeptical of penumbras emanating outside Planned Parenthood clinics.

And, of course, Rudolph W. Giuliani should remind Republican primary voters that on his watch, total abortions, taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions, and the abortion ratio all went the right way: down.

Mr. Murdock, a New York-based commentator to HUMAN EVENTS, is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.


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KEYWORDS: 2008election; electionpresident; giuliani; rudy
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1 posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:27 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: areafiftyone

Pinging the ping list.


2 posted on 01/18/2007 9:28:05 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies

So pro-lifers should be heartened because Mr. Giuliani didn't do anything to keep the abortion rate high?

Yeah, right.


3 posted on 01/18/2007 9:30:43 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((((PING)))))))


4 posted on 01/18/2007 9:31:02 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Dark Skies

Thanks - I pinged everyone! Waiting for the onslaught! LOL!


5 posted on 01/18/2007 9:32:36 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Ping!


6 posted on 01/18/2007 9:32:54 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: Dark Skies
According to the state Office of Vital Statistics, total abortions performed in New York City between 1993 (just before Giuliani arrived) and 2001 (as he departed) fell from 103,997 to 86,466 -- a 16.86 percent decrease.

According to the CDC, from 1995 to 2000, total abortions in the US declined from 1.211 million to .857 million - or a decline of about 29 percent.

So abortion in NYC while Rudy was mayor declined at a rate roughly half that of the country as a whole.

OK, next attempt to paint Rudy as a pro-lifer...

7 posted on 01/18/2007 9:33:31 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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To: Dark Skies

So he is trying to flip flop already.


8 posted on 01/18/2007 9:34:04 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: sitetest; Antoninus; Claud; Campion; ArrogantBustard; Aquinasfan; bornacatholic; wideawake; ...

Get a load of this.

We're supposed to be GRATEFUL to Mr. Giuliani for not making the laws and regulations of New York City even MORE pro-abort than they are!

How's that go over with you, fellow social conservatives and pro-lifers?


9 posted on 01/18/2007 9:34:20 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: dirtboy

"reduce the number of abortions"? That's what Hillary says.


10 posted on 01/18/2007 9:34:55 AM PST by maximusaurelius
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To: Dark Skies

I guess this means he's never had an abortion...


11 posted on 01/18/2007 9:35:40 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Dark Skies
Good grief.

“I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said in South Carolina’s The State newspaper last November 21. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

What politician *doesn't* say this? Even Hillary called abortion "wrong."

12 posted on 01/18/2007 9:36:34 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: sitetest

Most Americans, including Republicans, are pro-choice. Rudy's on the right track.


13 posted on 01/18/2007 9:36:51 AM PST by zarf
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To: Dark Skies
There's more than one way to be "pro life." Refusing to let Arafat enter Avery Fisher Hall, and refusing tainted Saudi donations are two that I can think of.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 01/18/2007 9:37:21 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: areafiftyone
I gotten so accustomed to the crabbiness of the Rudy-haters I miss them when they fail to show up.
15 posted on 01/18/2007 9:37:53 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: areafiftyone
“I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said in South Carolina’s The State newspaper last November 21. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

Sounds like Hillary Clinton's talking points.

16 posted on 01/18/2007 9:38:40 AM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: sitetest

Again...what would the President do to stop abortions? What did Bush do? I thought you wanted it to go back to the States anyway. I'll be honest and tell you that making abortion the number one issue is not only foolish, but dangerous for the country.


17 posted on 01/18/2007 9:39:13 AM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: Dark Skies

One Hit Wonders I call them - they apparently harp on only one issue and that's their mantra. I see they called for backup so we should be bombarded on this post!


18 posted on 01/18/2007 9:39:31 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Dark Skies

So they're telling me I should be happy because it's not like he's organizing a bus caravan to the clinic and performing them himself?

Rrrrriiiiight.


19 posted on 01/18/2007 9:39:36 AM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Support Ron Paul for President)
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To: sitetest

Rudy G (and all his camp-followers, cheerleaders, and sycophants) can pound sand.


20 posted on 01/18/2007 9:39:44 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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