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U.S. military: Iran arming Iraq militias
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/11/07 | Steven R. Hurst - ap

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:56:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge

BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. military officials on Sunday accused the highest levels of the Iranian leadership of arming Shiite militants in Iraq with sophisticated armor-piercing roadside bombs that have killed more than 170 American forces.

The military command in Baghdad denied, however, that any newly smuggled Iranian weapons were behind the five U.S. military helicopter crashes since Jan. 20 — four that were shot out of the sky by insurgent gunfire.

A fifth crash has tentatively been blamed on mechanical failure. In the same period, two private security company helicopters also have crashed but the cause was unclear.

The deadly and highly sophisticated weapons the U.S. military said it traced to Iran are known as "explosively formed penetrators," or EFPs.

The presentation was the result of weeks of preparation and revisions as U.S. officials put together a package of material to support the Bush administration's claims of Iranian intercession on behalf of militant Iraqis fighting American forces.

Senior U.S. military officials in Baghdad said the display was prompted by the military's concern for "force protection," which, they said, was guaranteed under the United Nations resolution that authorizes American soldiers to be in Iraq.

Three senior military officials who explained the display said the "machining process" used in the construction of the deadly bombs had been traced to Iran.

The experts, who spoke to a large gathering of reporters on condition that they not be further identified, said the supply trail began with Iran's Revolutionary Guards Quds Force, which also is accused of arming the Hezbollah guerrilla army in Lebanon. The officials said the EFP weapon was first tested there.

The officials said the Revolutionary Guard and its Quds force report directly to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The briefing on Iran was revised heavily after officials decided it was not ready for release as planned last month.

Senior U.S. officials in Washington — cautious after the drubbing the administration took for the faulty intelligence leading to the 2003 Iraq invasion — had held back because they were unhappy with the original presentation.

The display appeared to be part of the White House drive that has empowered U.S. forces in Iraq to use all means to curb Iranian influence in the country, including killing Iranian agents.

It included a power-point slide program and a handful of mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades which the military officials said were made in Iran.

The centerpiece of the display, however, was a gray metal pipe about 10 inches long and 6 inches in diameter, the exterior casing of what the military said was an EFP, the roadside bomb that shoots out fist-sized wads of nearly molten copper that can penetrate the armor on an Abrams tank.

"A normal roadside bomb is like a shortgun blast. But these are like a rifle. They're focused and they're aimed. ... It's going to take anything out in its way, go in one side and out the other," said 1st Lt. Zane Galvach, 25, of Dayton, Ohio, a soldier with the Army's 2nd Division, based in Baghdad.

The EFPs, as well as Iranian-made mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades, have been supplied to what the military officials termed "rogue elements" of the Mahdi Army militia of anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. He is a key backer of Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The U.S. officials glossed over armaments having reached the other major Shiite militia organization, the Badr Brigade. It is the military wing of Iraq's most powerful Shiite political organization, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, whose leaders also have close ties to the U.S.

Many key government figures and members of the Shiite political establishment have deep ties to Iran, having spent decades there in exile during Saddam Hussein's rule. The Badr Brigade was formed and trained by Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

The U.S. officials said there was no evidence of Iranian-made EFPs having fallen into the hands of Sunni insurgents who operate mainly in Anbar province in the west of Iraq, Baghdad and regions surrounding the capital.

"We know more than we can show," said one of the senior officials, when pressed for tangible evidence that the EFPs were made in Iran.

An intelligence analyst in the group said Iran was working through "multiple surrogates" — mainly in the Mahdi Army — to smuggle the EFPs into Iraq. He said most of the components are entering the country at crossing points near Amarah, the Iranian border city of Meran and the Basra area of southern Iraq.

The analyst said Iraq's Shiite-led government had been briefed on Iran's involvement and Iraqi officials had asked the Iranians to stop. Al-Maliki has said he told both the U.S. and Iran that he does not want his country turned into a proxy battlefield.

Last week, U.S. officials said they were investigating allegations that Shiite lawmaker Jamal Jaafar Mohammed was a main conduit for Iranian weapons entering the country. Mohammed has believed to have fled to Iran.

U.S. officials have alleged for years that weapons were entering the country from Iran but had until Sunday stopped short of alleging involvement by top Iranian leaders.

During the briefing, a senior defense official said that one of the six Iranians detained in January in the northern city of Irbil was the operational commander of the Quds Force.

He was identified as Mohsin Chizari, who was apprehended after slipping back into Iraq after a 10-month absence, the officer said.

The Iranians were caught trying to flush documents down the toilet, he said. They had also tried to change their appearance by shaving their heads. Bags of their hair were found during the raid, he said.

The dates of manufacture on weapons found so far indicate they were made after fall of Saddam Hussein — mostly in 2006, the officials said.

In a separate briefing, Maj. Gen. Jim Simmons, deputy commander of Multinational Corps-Iraq, said that since December 2004, U.S. helicopter pilots have been shot at on average about 100 times a month and been hit on an average of 17 times in the same period.

He disclosed a previously unknown shootdown, a Blackhawk helicopter hit by small arms fire near the western city of Hit. The craft crash-landed but there were no casualties. Simmons was on board.

The major general said Iraqi militants are known to have SA-7, SA-14 and SA-16 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles but none of the most recent five military crashes were caused by those weapons. He said some previous crashes had been a result of such missiles but would not elaborate.

As road travel has become unacceptably dangerous in Iraq, U.S. forces increasingly have turned to helicopters for transportation of troops and supplies. Simmons said U.S. helicopters were in the air for 240,000 hours in 2005 and he estimated the total figure this year would reach 400,000 hours.

North of Baghdad, a suicide truck bomber crashed into a police station, killing at least 30 policemen. A total of 73 people were killed or found dead across Iraq. The U.S. military said Sunday a soldier was shot and killed the day before in volatile Diyala province northeast of the capital.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arming; efps; iran; iraq; militias
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1 posted on 02/11/2007 12:56:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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This handout photo released by the US military shows Iranian anti-tank rocket propelled grenades seized in Baquba as well as in Baghdad between 2006-2007. Sophisticated Iranian-built bombs smuggled into Iraq have killed at least 170 US and allied soldiers since June 2004, senior US defence officials said, amid ongoing carnage.(AFP/US Military)


2 posted on 02/11/2007 12:56:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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This handout photo released by the US military shows an 81mm mortar round believed to be from Iran and found in Baghdad in January 2007. Sophisticated Iranian-built bombs smuggled into Iraq have killed at least 170 US and allied soldiers since June 2004 and wounded 620 more, senior US defence officials have said.(AFP/US Military)


3 posted on 02/11/2007 12:57:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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A handout diagram released by senior defence officials from the Multinational Force is seen in Baghdad February 11, 2007. U.S.-led forces in Iraq presented on Sunday what officials said was 'a growing body' of evidence of Iranian weapons being used to kill their soldiers, as U.S. anger at Tehran's alleged involvement in the war rises. REUTERS/Senior Defence Officials from the Multinational Force in Baghdad/Handout (IRAQ)


4 posted on 02/11/2007 1:00:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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The Iranians think they can win.


5 posted on 02/11/2007 1:01:20 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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A handout diagram released by senior defence officials from the Multinational Force is seen in Baghdad February 11, 2007. U.S.-led forces in Iraq presented on Sunday what officials said was 'a growing body' of evidence of Iranian weapons being used to kill their soldiers, as U.S. anger at Tehran's alleged involvement in the war rises. REUTERS/Senior Defence Officials from the Multinational Force in Baghdad/Handout (IRAQ)


A handout diagram released by senior defence officials from the Multinational Force is seen in Baghdad February 11, 2007. U.S.-led forces in Iraq presented on Sunday what officials said was 'a growing body' of evidence of Iranian weapons being used to kill their soldiers, as U.S. anger at Tehran's alleged involvement in the war rises. REUTERS/Senior Defence Officials from the Multinational Force in Baghdad/Handout (IRAQ)


6 posted on 02/11/2007 1:02:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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I think the Iranian diplomats ( Iran said they were doing their diplomatic duties ) in Irbil are the evidence that this is coming from the top levels of the Iranian government.....Sen Reed might want to explain that.....
7 posted on 02/11/2007 1:04:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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A handout diagram released by senior defence officials from the Multinational Force is seen in Baghdad February 11, 2007. U.S.-led forces in Iraq presented on Sunday what officials said was 'a growing body' of evidence of Iranian weapons being used to kill their soldiers, as U.S. anger at Tehran's alleged involvement in the war rises. REUTERS/Senior Defence Officials from the Multinational Force in Baghdad/Handout (IRAQ)


8 posted on 02/11/2007 1:04:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Excellent....


9 posted on 02/11/2007 1:06:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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The writing is on the wall... uhhh,, ordnance for all to see. ;-)


10 posted on 02/11/2007 1:08:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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The Iranians fret with good reason about the US military paying them a visit to do some 'Regime Change'. They know what they have been up to in Iraq for the last several years.


Bush already has enough reason for intervention in Iran, but it will unfortunately be up to many spineless 'head in the sand' Democrats whether any action taken will have enough follow-through to neutralize the bothersome Iranian
Caliphatists.
11 posted on 02/11/2007 1:08:55 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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Why are the markins on the weapons casings in English? Misdirection? Or standard procedure?


12 posted on 02/11/2007 1:09:04 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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So... what's the Bush Administration gonna do about it?
13 posted on 02/11/2007 1:10:16 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

looks like standard to me,, Middle Easterners may not like to admit it but Western influence is a part of their lives whether thyey like it or not.

Most who produce these weapons are likely pretty literate and some of the experts in the production, may in fact have been educated in infidel institutions.


14 posted on 02/11/2007 1:12:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Only a fool would doubt that the Iranians are supplying these weapons and now likely anti aircraft missles bringing down helicopters.

The question is now that we are going public with the information, what are we going to do to stop the flow????


15 posted on 02/11/2007 1:30:00 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: NormsRevenge
It strikes me as strange that the printing on the armament is in English. Why would the Iranians make shells like this and print on them in English?

What am I missing?
16 posted on 02/11/2007 1:37:59 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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This image provided by the U.S. military on Sunday, Feb. 11, 2007 shows what officials call 'explosively formed penetrators,'or EFPs. U.S. military officials on Sunday accused the highest levels of the Iranian leadership of arming Shiite militants in Iraq with the sophisticated armor-piercing roadside bombs that have killed more than 170 American forces. (AP Photo/U.S. military)


17 posted on 02/11/2007 4:18:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Throwing this on the pile might be something new in it....

U.S. Says Iran Leadership Arming Iraqis

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February 11, 2007 at 18:40:2 PST

U.S. Says Iran Leadership Arming Iraqis

By STEVEN R. HURST
ASSOCIATED PRESS

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -

0211dv-us-iran 0210dv-petraeus-iraq U.S. military officials on Sunday accused the highest levels of the Iranian leadership of arming Shiite militants in Iraq with sophisticated armor-piercing roadside bombs that have killed more than 170 troops from the American-led coalition.

The military command in Baghdad denied, however, that any newly smuggled Iranian weapons were behind the five U.S. military helicopter crashes since Jan. 20 - four that were shot out of the sky by insurgent gunfire.

A fifth crash has tentatively been blamed on mechanical failure. In the same period, two private security company helicopters also have crashed but the cause was unclear.

The deadly and highly sophisticated weapons the U.S. military said it traced to Iran are known as "explosively formed penetrators," or EFPs.

The presentation was the result of weeks of preparation and revisions as U.S. officials put together a package of material to support the Bush administration's claims of Iranian intercession on behalf of militant Iraqis fighting American forces.

Senior U.S. military officials in Baghdad said the display was prompted by the military's concern for "force protection," which, they said, was guaranteed under the United Nations resolution that authorizes American soldiers to be in Iraq.

Three senior military officials who explained the display said the "machining process" used in the construction of the deadly bombs had been traced to Iran.

The experts, who spoke to a large gathering of reporters on condition that they not be further identified, said the supply trail began with Iran's Revolutionary Guards Quds Force, which also is accused of arming the Hezbollah guerrilla army in Lebanon. The officials said the EFP weapon was first tested there.

The officials said the Revolutionary Guard and its Quds force report directly to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The briefing on Iran was revised heavily after officials decided it was not ready for release as planned last month.

Senior U.S. officials in Washington - cautious after the drubbing the administration took for the faulty intelligence leading to the 2003 Iraq invasion - had held back because they were unhappy with the original presentation.

The display appeared to be part of the White House drive that has empowered U.S. forces in Iraq to use all means to curb Iranian influence in the country, including killing Iranian agents.

It included a power-point slide program and a handful of mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades which the military officials said were made in Iran.

The centerpiece of the display, however, was a gray metal pipe about 10 inches long and 6 inches in diameter, the exterior casing of what the military said was an EFP, the roadside bomb that shoots out fist-sized wads of nearly molten copper that can penetrate the armor on an Abrams tank.

"A normal roadside bomb is like a shotgun blast. But these are like a rifle. They're focused and they're aimed. ... It's going to take anything out in its way, go in one side and out the other," said 1st Lt. Zane Galvach, 25, of Dayton, Ohio, a soldier with the Army's 2nd Division, based in Baghdad.

Skeptical congressional Democrats said the Bush administration should move cautiously before accusing Iran of fomenting a campaign of violence against U.S. troops in Iraq.

Senate Intelligence Committee member Ron Wyden, D-Ore., said "the administration is engaged in a drumbeat with Iran that is much like the drumbeat that they did with Iraq. We're going to insist on accountability."

On the Republican side, Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi said he did not think the United States was trying to make a case for attacking Iran. Lott said the U.S. should try to stop the flow of munitions through Iran to Iraq but that "you do that by interdiction ... you don't do it by invasion."

The EFPs, as well as Iranian-made mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades, have been supplied to what the military officials termed "rogue elements" of the Mahdi Army militia of anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. He is a key backer of Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The U.S. officials glossed over armaments having reached the other major Shiite militia organization, the Badr Brigade. It is the military wing of Iraq's most powerful Shiite political organization, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, whose leaders also have close ties to the U.S.

Many key government figures and members of the Shiite political establishment have deep ties to Iran, having spent decades there in exile during Saddam Hussein's rule. The Badr Brigade was formed and trained by Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

An intelligence analyst in the group said Iran was working through "multiple surrogates" - mainly in the Mahdi Army - to smuggle the EFPs into Iraq. He said most of the components are entering the country at crossing points near Amarah, the Iranian border city of Meran and the Basra area of southern Iraq.

The analyst said Iraq's Shiite-led government had been briefed on Iran's involvement and Iraqi officials had asked the Iranians to stop. Al-Maliki has said he told both the U.S. and Iran that he does not want his country turned into a proxy battlefield.

"We know more than we can show," said one of the senior officials, when pressed for tangible evidence that the EFPs were made in Iran.

U.S. officials have alleged for years that weapons were entering the country from Iran but had until Sunday stopped short of alleging involvement by top Iranian leaders.

During the briefing, a senior defense official said that one of the six Iranians detained in January in the northern city of Irbil was the operational commander of the Quds Force.

He was identified as Mohsin Chizari, who was apprehended after slipping back into Iraq after a 10-month absence, the officer said.

The Iranians were caught trying to flush documents down the toilet, he said. They had also tried to change their appearance by shaving their heads. Bags of their hair were found during the raid, he said.

The dates of manufacture on weapons found so far indicate they were made after fall of Saddam Hussein - mostly in 2006, the officials said.

In a separate briefing, Maj. Gen. Jim Simmons, deputy commander of Multinational Corps-Iraq, said that since December 2004, U.S. helicopter pilots have been shot at on average about 100 times a month and been hit on an average of 17 times in the same period.

He disclosed for the first time that a Black Hawk helicopter had been hit by small arms fire near the western city of Hit. The craft crash-landed but there were no casualties. Simmons was on board.

The major general said Iraqi militants are known to have SA-7, SA-14 and SA-16 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles but none of the most recent five military crashes were caused by those weapons. He said some previous crashes had been a result of such missiles but would not elaborate.

North of Baghdad, a suicide truck bomber crashed into a police station near Tikrit, killing at least 30 policemen. A total of 76 people were killed or found dead across Iraq. The U.S. Central Command said a soldier was shot and killed Sunday in volatile Diyala province northeast of the capital. A second soldier was reported killed Sunday in western Baghdad.

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18 posted on 02/11/2007 8:42:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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Thanks!

"We know more than we can show," said one of the senior officials, when pressed for tangible evidence that the EFPs were made in Iran.

19 posted on 02/11/2007 8:51:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Duh !

If I have to say anything more than that, you haven't been paying attention.

Commenting beyond that would be a waste of breath. If Libs can't understand then it just proves that their interest lies elsewhere. Reason and logic ain't got diddly squat to do with it !

20 posted on 02/11/2007 8:52:18 PM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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