[theDentist]

Well, at least it's Federal, so if they are put down it'll be a lot sooner than if it were a California DP sentence.

[theDentist]

Well, at least it's Federal, so if they are put down it'll be a lot sooner than if it were a California DP sentence.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Ping.

[Daaave]

"Lawyers for Mikhel, a native of St. Petersburg, Russia, and Kadamovas, a Lithuanian, argued unsuccessfully that their clients should have received life in prison rather than death. They said the two were affected by having grown up under a communist government, contending that they learned they had to be criminals to survive."

"Court papers said one of the kidnappers boasted that the group would continue its money-making plan until the bodies they dropped in the reservoir near Yosemite National Park were “stacked on top of each other.”

[saradippity]

Do you know if the kidnapper/murderers were illegal or undocumented immigrants? Were they Moslems,Christians or Jews? What ethnic or religious or political affiliations did those killed have?

So many murderers who seem to be Mideastern Moslems or Mexicans or Central Americans are held up to great scrutiny on these threads while others are given short shrift.

Actually it doesn't seem to matter a whole lot whether they came here legally or illegally as evidenced by some of the ugly crimes committed by both types. Maybe we need to look at ourselves and what qualities our citizens possess or lack that might make us vulnerable to violent crimes. I can't remember who said "an unexamined life is not worth living" but I think I agree with him.