Help with 81mm faked by US claim. (Vanity)

Another Day In The Empire ^ | Patrick Lawrence

[Jet Jaguar]

Thanks.

[PAR35]

Ain't Rivero that tinfoil hat feller that used to post on FR before Y2K about black helicopters and concentration camps in the USA?

He hasn't been around FR for a long time. Perhaps he was sent to one of the camps.

[BallyBill]

Dude that hangs out down on the corner thinks there are alien bases on the moon. I still smile and wave to him every day. No one really cares what he says.

[FreeAtlanta]

Perhaps he was sent to one of the camps.

No, he was just threatened with being sent to one.

[Tommyjo]

As a military enthusiast I have visited the Iranian DIO website and the links contained within since the beginning of 2006. It really is amazing the length that these idiots will go to to. Just because the Iranian website creators have used stock images of troops then they think that it is a 'U.S.' fake.

The University does have links to military products and has exhibited projects at the Kish trade fairs.

The Kish trade fair:

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_490.shtml

http://www.iran-airshow.com/Exhibitors.htm

'The Malek Ashtar University which now has inherited the project, hopes against hope that the Shafagh will at last get airborne someday. However, it is not yet beyond mock-up stage.'

'Malek Ashtar University’s “Flying Boat” ground effect project. At least two prototypes have successfully been flown. It normally fles 0.5 to 4 metres above water, but a maximum 50m flight level is also possible. It enjoys a cruising speed of 140km/h.'

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=399

[Tommyjo]

Kurt Nimmo's naivety is simply stunning. Does he really believe that the Iranian Government would not be publically humiliating the U.S. Government over this claim of a fake website? If such a claim was true then the Iranians would be pulling the details and claims to pieces by use of every bit of the Iranian media. Can Nimmo explain why this hasn't happened?

If Nimmo is so convinced then when does he think that the websites will disappear?

Why hasn't The Malek Ashtar University by now publically denounced the U.S. for faking a website using its name?

http://www.mut.ac.ir/English_new/MUT_MAIN.HTM

http://www.mut.ac.ir/

[Tommyjo]

Check out this forum from October 2006.

Did Nimmo really think that the website had been faked way back in October 2006? Note the 81mm mortars shells.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95797

Also the link for the DIO can be found at:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/links.htm

Page last modified: 27-04-2005 18:18:06 Zulu

[Tommyjo]

Also, how does Nimmo explain the link from the DIO website?

http://www.diomil.ir/en/aboutus.aspx

Every single one of those would have to be faked also and the host DIO website too.

http://www.aig.ir/

http://www.iramig.ir/

http://www.nabexport.ir/intro.html

[Sulla123]

Thanks Tommyjo every little bit helps.

[Tommyjo]

No probs.

Kurt Nimmo spouted this non-sense and quoted the Jaffee Center and 107mm M-30. If he had actually used the link and followed it and actually done some research he would know that the 107mm M-30 is NOT a mortar shell. If he had actually looked at the entire document he would have notice the following:

http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/balance/Iran.pdf

'Defense Production

Army equipment:

81, 120, 130 and 320mm mortar and artillery ammunition'

Once the DIO website was pointed out to him he backtracks and now claims that the website is a fake. Are these whacko conspiracy nuts serious?

http://www.diomil.ir/en/aboutus.aspx

http://www.aig.ir/

http://www.iramig.ir/

http://www.nabexport.ir/intro.html

That would mean that every single link from DIO would be fake too. Follow the links and go to the AMIG website that they are also claiming as fake.

As a military enthusiast I have visited those pages since the beginning of 2006. Yes they contain stupid errors, use stock footage and in the English have poor spelling. The Chinese military company webpages are exactly the same. Lost in translation springs to mind!

Do they expect these webpages to simply disappear? Do they not think that the Iranian Government would have publically exposed such fakes by now? If the websites were 'U.S. fakes' then the Iranian media would have had a field day with such exposure. Why have they not done so?

Do they believe that Mr Vahid Karami is all part of the conspiracy?

http://www.exportid.com/members/1136022295.jpg

Note the website links to DIO website in the following links?

'vahid karami tehran, Iran
Category: Security & Protection
military & chemicals & industrial & valve

Dear Sir,we are one of the largest important Industrial organization of Iran,which is
capable in production and export of multi - purpose defense and civil products & services.
such as Civil construction & industrial potentials,chemical products & materials ......more

Active for 1 year and 49 days
Company: defense industries
Website: www.sasad.ir and www.diomil.ir
Phone: +98-21-22542059 & 225613
Fax: +98-21-22551961 & 2254583
Languages: english'

http://www.alibaba.com/company/10487869/contactinfo.html

http://www.huanbohai.gov.cn/dianzi/XXLR1.ASP?ID=6913

http://www.57trade.com/Company/DIO_IR_Defe...Iran-100765.htm

http://www.exportid.com/?id=4780&name=vahid_karami

http://itrademarket.com/defenceindustries/222329/

[Sulla123]

Yes it seems he is a nut. After giving him the correct information and him just using fantasy now I can see that. But I think it still important that we showed he was wrong:)

[Tommyjo]

I agree. The problem is that will he retract the claims on his website. In a say a years time, when the DIO webpages are still there and the Iranian media have not denounced them as fakes, what will his excuse be then?

[Sulla123]

I am sure he will invent something.