Posted on 02/20/2007 8:16:56 AM PST by Al Simmons
FDR may very well have prevented a communist revolution in the U.S.
Post-WWII, President Roosevelt was dead.
ROFLMAO at such tripe!
FDR took a depression and by implimenting his Marxist diatribe, stretched it out 5-6 years more than if Hoover had stayed in office.
FDR was responsible for the cold war. His Keynsian policies
created the massive welfare state. His fiscal and monetary
policies deepened the great depression.
IMO a poor President. No way should Roosevelt eclipse
Reagan.
Containment failed. It was Reagan's arms race--economic war, if you will--that really worked. Containment only slowed down their pace a little.
Good point. University economics studies have more or less proved this, no?
FDR condemned 60 million to Russian slavery. How could any president have been worse?
Well (except for poster #1), I see that the 'traditional contingent' is out in force. Fine. At least you've been exposed to a different opinion and perhaps it will lead you to think after your knees stop jerking. Its a part of the process...
Some would say that was indeed his greatest contribution to his country.../jk
Had Hoover remained in office we would have had a real chance of a Marxist uprising. Its amazing to see how people are blind to the fact that Hoover had 3 years to deal with the Depression and failed miserably as the nation's morale slipped deeper and deeper into despair...
1. He basically pulled a Clinton-style triangulation, allowing for some socialism in order to take the edge off the socialists. This was the wrong decision, as the economy was already starting to recover, while we are still stuck with his socialism some 70 years later.
Also FDR refused to act when Hoover urged him to during the handover, causing more banks to fail and the banking issue to spread.
Further, the Social Security act was in itself dishonest - the actuarial tables, from the start, showed that only 1 in 4 Americans would make it to 65, so basically FDR was taking from the shorter-lived to give to the longer-lived. Also, the original SS was changed greatly in just a few years to encompass much more socialism.
2. "optimism and hope" - FDR was an accomplished liar.
Things you don't take into account: the NRA (National Recovery Act), which was so unconstitutional that even a hand-picked panel of his friends was scathing in their review of it; Communist infiltration to the highest levels of the US government; his attacking of personal property in seizing gold.
Post WWII (as you call it):
1 and 2 : Lindbergh, whatever his other beliefs, may well have been correct in urging isolationism so that Germany and Russia would have ground each other to pieces. Instead, Germany was kept down, allowing Russia to gobble up most of Eastern Europe (remember Yalta) and throwing hundreds of millions into 50 plus years of Communist slavery.
I could go on, but if you can't answer the above, or they don't change your position, then adding to the list above is pointless.
Don't settle for reading revisionist history alone - search out the archives, the newspapers from the time to get the full flavor of the despair this nation was in when FDR took office - and see how he single-handedly turned that around, literally saving the nation from a far worse fate. Monday morning quarterbacking repeating dogma does not tend to lead to positive brain growth...
That is the biggest bull I have ever heard since Bill Clinton last opened his mouth.
It is preposterous to argue that the Red Army was tougher or better equipped than the US Army.
It had more effectives and more hardware - but not better soldiers or better equipment.
And we could have nuked Moscow.
There's a grid band in my area that wrote a song about Roosevelt, called "Dead legs big spender".
George Bush gets creamed for his reaction to Andy Card informing him of the 9/11 attacks. If only there was a camera in the Oval Office to show FDR continuing to eat his lunch with Harry Hopkins after being informed of the attack on Pearl Harbor.
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