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To: EQAndyBuzz

they are just going to lie low until the US leaves.

wonder how his relocation to iran impacts his credibility with his followers, if it does at all.


3 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:40 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Popularity means very little in Iraq. What matters is you have weapons and followers who are well paid and dedicated.


4 posted on 03/04/2007 3:30:13 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: WoofDog123

Which means they'll lie low for the next 20 years. Works for me. At what point does lying low become defeated? I'll just go ahead and replace the word now. In the future, when considering the use of the phrase lying low, replaced with defeated.


31 posted on 03/04/2007 7:48:44 AM PST by kinghorse (I didn't question Nancy's patriotism. I questioned her judgment - Dick Cheney 2007)
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It's an observation I've made myself several times. The Jihadi really does have the luxury of time, as we do not. What the situation on the ground is come, say, next October will be the real barometer of success, in my estimation. We can hope (hope isn't a force multiplier, I know) that by then, the Iraqi Security Forces are up and just about fully functional and self sustaining, with minimal support from coalition ground troops. US air power is probably there to stay, with some quick strike rapid deployment force, but by then, the Iraqi's had better be able to handle the situation.


54 posted on 03/04/2007 12:40:47 PM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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If we clear the insurgents bad guys AND then repair the services that had been kept broken while they were ru(i | n)ning the neighborhoods we should win some converts. I wish I were sure they would be enough of them.
78 posted on 03/04/2007 4:28:40 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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I wonder how his relocation to iran impacts his credibility with his followers, if it does at all.

We'll have to invade Iran if we are going to stop the terrorists in Iraq.
92 posted on 03/05/2007 2:24:21 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: WoofDog123

With his own followers? Not at all--if an Iraqi was following Al Sadr he or she was already pro-Iranian, and they can cite Mohammed retreating only to regroup and attack later as 'justification'.

With Iraqi Shi'ites in general, I think he's lost credibility. Most Iraqi Shi'ites regard Grand Ayatollah Al Sistani as their leader, and he is definitely anti-Iranian, regarding the Iranian clericalist regime a usurpers in their claim to lead Shia Islam, and regarding the 'Hastener' sect of which Ahmadinejad and his spiritual mentor Masab Yazdi are part as heretics.

(Al Sistani has also been objectively pro-US, except for a two-to-three month period last year when he tried to get Al Sadr back into Iraqi civil society. When that failed, he came out quietly for the suppression of all armed militias, and Al Maliki followed within a week.)


95 posted on 03/05/2007 7:35:08 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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