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To: Valin
I hope we're not going to measure success by the number of liquor stores! The ease with which ordinary citizens are able to live their day-to-day lives...going to work...going to school...going to the post office....going to buy a loaf of bread...is the key.
3 posted on 03/07/2007 9:14:06 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"I hope we're not going to measure success by the number of liquor stores!"

I think it is a good indicator of success in establishing a secular environment, or at least the potential popularity of a truly secular environment.

IraqtheModel refers to the current fighting not as a "civil war" or a "sectarian war", but instead refers to it as a "war of the sectarians". IraqtheModel also has stated that many Iraqi citizens have realized that, though sectarian elections were a natural response to the Saddam era, it is time to move toward secular representatives. (This movement is also reflected on another thread today regarding support for secular candidates.)

7 posted on 03/07/2007 9:23:31 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Gay State Conservative
 
 
Hey! It's something in Iraq that should garner wholehearted Democrat support!
 
 
 
 
"I'll have another fifth of the good stuff, yeah, off the top shelf - put it on my tab"
 
 
 

11 posted on 03/07/2007 10:04:45 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I hope we're not going to measure success by the number of liquor stores!

Quite the contrary, consuming alcohol would go along way towards soothing factional violence. It acts a social lubricant between classes, and helps people forget their grievances. IMHO, the strictures against alcohol in Muslim societies is an important barricade to civility.

14 posted on 03/07/2007 10:40:00 AM PST by bukkdems (Middle East solution: ban the veil. Purge those who oppose.)
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