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To: jas3

Comparing the invention of the lightbulb with your suggestion that the US switch all consumption to solar power is ridiculous.

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Well. Actually I was not suggesting it was likely or practical to convert America to all solar power. Though it is free. Every bit we can harness, is money we're not sending to terrorist-sponsoring regimes or South American communists.

It's not necessary for America to go 100% solar. What would benefit our nation and our children, and their children, would be for America to become SELF-SUFFICIENT in energy, immediately.

We're paying people, who hate us, and want to destroy our nation.

That's insane.

Like that old adage about the two guys running away from the bear -- and one observes "I don't need to outrun the bear, I just need to outrun you"...

We just need to find ways to replace the energy we import.

After that, why worry? It's then about American jobs.

If 10% of the cars on the road, were to become electric cars of one sort or another, tomorrow, how much oil would that leave on the world market -- and how much would the price for that oil DROP as a result?

It's a win-win.

And it just, could, save the American auto industry.

If they wake up.

(tapping on computer screen loudly)

"HELLO?" "Detroit?" (visualizing Gordon Gecko on the beach, gazing out from the Long Island shore at the morning fog over the Atlantic in his bathrobe in the movie Wall Street)

"GET TO WORK..."

:)


8 posted on 03/18/2007 8:40:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Mr. President: PARDON NACHO AND JOSE!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I hesitate to reply to you, since I doubt you will bother to actually read anything about US energy production or consumption. However you can't state: "Electric cars, especially when solar power is effective for providing the charging, will be a true (massive) win-win for American industry. We can become almost immediately 100% energy independent almost overnight." in one post and "Actually I was not suggesting it was likely or practical to convert America to all solar power." in another and claim to be consistent.

Very little of our energy dollars go to "terrorist-sponsoring regimes or South American communists." Most of our energy is produced here in the form of coal, natural gas, and via nuclear. We do import about 12-15 million barrels of oil per day. Less than 10% of our oil comes from Venezuela. Maybe 20% comes from countries that you are not clever enough to distinguish from "terrorist-sponsoring regimes".

It would not benefit the United State, our children or our grandchildren for us to become SELF-SUFFICIENT in energy. It benefits all of us when we trade with our neighbors and they trade with us. Your same arguments can be made about any other product or service, in which case why trade with any foreign country at all? Lets localize your argument to states and make each state self-sufficient. We can take your argument to the household level and outlaw trade entirely. Then we would all be self-sufficient (and far poorer).

Trade is what makes us wealthy. That includes trade in energy.

Chavez aside, "WE" are not paying people who hate us and want to destroy our nation. Most of our foreign oil comes from Canada. Our oil purchases are NOT insane, although your bear analogy is.

There is NO way to economically replace the energy we import. The only way to do it would be to double the price for petroleum products which would be immensely destructive the the United States and to American jobs.

If 10% of the cars on the road were to become electric cars then then we would need massive new electic plants to generate energy for them. That would raise the price of coal, nuclear, and gas generated electricity. We use oil because it is CHEAP and ABUNDANT. Switching to electric cars is not a win-win. It is a win-lose.

And switching to electric cars would be of no help whatsoever to the American car industry. I have no clue what you could possibly mean by that comment or your odd Gordon Gecko reference.

jas3
9 posted on 03/18/2007 9:15:01 PM PDT by jas3
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