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Iraq on $3 billion weapons buying binge
The Examiner ^ | March 19 2007 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 03/19/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by jmc1969

The Bush administration has begun delivering more than $3 billion in U.S-made arms to Iraq in a new program to introduce American firepower into Iraq's aging Soviet-based arsenal.

When the Pentagon first began building the 320,000-strong Iraq Security Force in 2003, U.S. commanders decided to keep AK-47 rifles and other East Bloc gear. The theory was it would speed the training process since the Iraqis already knew how to use them.

Now, however, thinking has changed. Training Iraqis in American M-16 rifles, M-4 carbines and other weapons makes more sense if the U.S. wants to cement a long-lasting security cooperation.

"This is the first time they have actually started to buy our equipment in a big way," said retired Army Lt. Col. Robert Maginnis, a military analyst. "This is a major buy of U.S. equipment over there."

Iraq is spending more than $3 billion in 2006 and 2007 contracts through a U.S. program known as Foreign Military Sales, according to a March 14 internal document produced by the Baghdad command and obtained by The Examiner.

Besides small arms, the money will buy armored Humvee multipurpose vehicles, 5-ton trucks, ammunition, air surveillance radars and radios, the documents show.

The big U.S. weapons package marks the end of an era. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein bought virtually every weapon in the Soviet arsenal: tanks, air defense artillery, ballistic missiles and MiG jet fighters.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armstrade; iran; iraq; war; warwithiran; works4me
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I have said for three years the Pentagon was stupid for telling the Iraqis to buy Warsaw pact junk from Russia, because we didn't trust them with American weapons. It looks like reality dawned on someone in the Pentagon.
1 posted on 03/19/2007 2:35:36 PM PDT by jmc1969
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They're buying it with what money? Is the 3 billion from the US taxpayer?


2 posted on 03/19/2007 2:38:25 PM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Barney Gumble

Iraq has a 10 billion dollar surplus this year from oil money.

And, that is after they spent 3 billion on US weapons.

Iraq makes 40 billion a year from oil.


3 posted on 03/19/2007 2:40:01 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Awesome! Awesome! Awesome! This is the best news I've heard on Iraq in a long time. Without taking any arrogant high-ground... that's also what I hoped to see for years. Iraq has to be incorporated into the broader American-Western defense and military system (not necessairly NATO itself). They should use our weapons, not Soviet/Chinese junk.


4 posted on 03/19/2007 2:40:05 PM PDT by SolidWood (Attack Iran NOW!)
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To: Barney Gumble

I think I heard somewhere that they have OIL!


5 posted on 03/19/2007 2:40:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Barney Gumble

Who cares? Should we give it to the spinach farmers?


6 posted on 03/19/2007 2:41:07 PM PDT by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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Question: The AK-47 has a reputation as being a very resilient to harsh environments with little upkeep. Will the AK-47 hold up better in sandy desert environments than out M-16? Will your average Iraqi Army soldier put in the gun maintenance needed to keep the M-16 firing cleanly?

Or is this an outdated assumption?

7 posted on 03/19/2007 2:41:11 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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"I have said for three years the Pentagon was stupid for telling the Iraqis to buy Warsaw pact junk from Russia"

I don't think they've actually bought anything from Russia since 2003. It is mostly a matter of letting them use what they already have...in large quantities. We purposely didn't destroy a lot of weapons (including tanks and APCs) with the intent of resupplying the new Iraqi army when it was ready.

8 posted on 03/19/2007 2:43:44 PM PDT by Rokke
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Yes, the Iraqis have done multi million dollar weapons sales with Russia since the war ended and they have done sales with lots of ex-Soviet counties in Eastern Europe.


9 posted on 03/19/2007 2:45:31 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

What did they purchase?


10 posted on 03/19/2007 2:56:24 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Marine_Uncle; Dog; Coop; Allegra; DevSix; Cap Huff; zarf; SandRat; Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ..

ping


11 posted on 03/19/2007 2:57:05 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: Rokke

Mostly replacement equipment for their Warsaw pact junk.


12 posted on 03/19/2007 2:57:50 PM PDT by jmc1969
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We're arming the Palestinians with M-16s, may as well arm the Iraqis with them, too.

Were it my money, I'd be buying theHK416 instead. Nothing like replacing the gas tube with a short stroke piston to improve reliability!


13 posted on 03/19/2007 2:59:20 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yossarian

I like the Ak-47 round more than the M-16.

Sure, it's not as accurrate, long range.

It knocks people down, however, instead of going through them.

Opinions differ.


14 posted on 03/19/2007 3:00:37 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: jmc1969

So it's their money that's buying our equipment?


15 posted on 03/19/2007 3:03:00 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: airborne

Yes


16 posted on 03/19/2007 3:10:07 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Wonderful!


17 posted on 03/19/2007 3:12:42 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its a bit suprising how many people forget that Iraq isn't a dirt poor third world country.

In 4-6 years they could be pumping more oil then Saudi Arabia.


18 posted on 03/19/2007 3:14:02 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Unfortunately, they will be used against us in the short term of this generational fight. But we have no choice - if we don't arm them, Iran will infiltrate them even faster.

Still, I would limit what we give them, otherwise 1979 all over again.

19 posted on 03/19/2007 3:20:38 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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40 billion a year. If that's accurate I don't want to hear about 1 more penny of American taxpayer money going to anything but our own military period. If they've got 10 billion surplus let em build their own libraries and schools !!!


20 posted on 03/19/2007 3:23:57 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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