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Interview with Ignacio Ramos
CNN ^ | 3/27/2007 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 03/27/2007 4:05:59 PM PDT by buffyt

RAMOS: I had a pretty good sense, I mean, like I said, I had done this for the last ten years and the fact that the person that was driving this van didn't yield to, at the time, Agent Juarez, who first encountered the van, and then didn't yield to me, once I got behind it, pretty much gave us a good indication that at that time, yes, 99 percent chance that he was carrying narcotics in the van. I mean, that's just the way things worked out there.

DOBBS: You said, when you were down in the ditch and you were pursuing the suspect, or the witness, as it turns out, that you heard shots fired. What did you think was going on?

RAMOS: Well obviously, some type of altercation. and if there are shots being fired, I have to assume that, you know, in this case that it's the smugglers shooting at the other agent, and I knew that Agent Compeon was by himself, you know, because he was the only one standing between him and the smugglers' freedom to Mexico at the time.

So there was -- there was no other thought for me, other than he was in danger and he was being shot at.

DOBBS: At what point did you fire at the suspect?

RAMOS: When he made a threatening motion to me, when he turned and pointed what I believed was a gun to me. Had he never turned, you know, there would have been no shot. But when I told him to stop, he turned and made a threatening motion to me, and that's when I fired.

DOBBS: The prosecutor said you failed to arrest the drug smuggler, and that's why they couldn't charge him. Does that make any sense to you?

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; compean; dobbs; ignacio; lou; pardonamericanheroes; ramos; roguecops; whatistheholdup
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Los Angeles talk radio did their show here last year, KFI am, John & Ken show. Since I live in So Cal I went. I met Ignacio. What a fine man he is. This is such an injustice. I am no longer voting for or working for Republican candidates, and I used to be the president of the local Republican women's club in Lake Jackson Texas. Because of this case and the case against Jose Camean, I have totally lost faith in our government and our justice system.
1 posted on 03/27/2007 4:06:02 PM PDT by buffyt
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To: Ladycalif; Blue Collar Republican; chicagolady; Gelato; Waywardson; Broadside

ping...


2 posted on 03/27/2007 4:07:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Have your eco-sins forgiven: .Buy Carbon Indulgences!)
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To: buffyt

Oh goody. Time for popcorn.


3 posted on 03/27/2007 4:10:06 PM PDT by Chena
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To: Chena

Why do you say THAT?


4 posted on 03/27/2007 4:11:15 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

NICE Freeper profile page!


5 posted on 03/27/2007 4:12:01 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: buffyt

LOL!


6 posted on 03/27/2007 4:12:51 PM PDT by Chena
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To: buffyt

There are currently (as always I'm sure) some very miguided, or possibly corrupt, agressive prosecutors who the real problem with these cases. The other problem in too many cases are some stupid people who serve on juries. It's not the government or the justice system totally.


7 posted on 03/27/2007 4:15:49 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: buffyt

I cannot believe Bush hasn't pardoned these two yet. It really sickens me.


8 posted on 03/27/2007 4:16:00 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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To: All

The ballistics proved that the bullet removed from Davila's butt did not come from either patrol agent's gun. And the doctor who removed it said that Davila was turning around, swiveling around, toward the agents, in a pose he would use to shoot at them. He was NOT running from them. And Davila's mother said that he always carried a gun when he carried truck load of drugs into USA. He was a Mexican drug cartel drug runner. The US gave him a pass so that he could come into US any time he wanted to, pass freely. Then he was stopped again for carrying a truckload of drugs into US. Never prosecuted for it. Davila is currently suing US gov. for $5million. Living here on the Calif./Mexican border and at our other home in Texas we see what is happening. The drugs are coming in freely. And in Sequoia and Yosemite the Mexican drug cartels are growing pot, easier than crossing the border all the time, in areas that are considered pristine and fragile, where no one is allowed to go.


9 posted on 03/27/2007 4:16:06 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Chena

You are virtually a Newbie.


10 posted on 03/27/2007 4:16:55 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: buffyt

What a setup for anarchy.

Punish law enforcement for doing their job.
Future officer candidates thinks better
and chooses another career. So would I.
The people who remain to protect us will be
mostly "owned" agents of the sons of Muhammed.

Cripes! We're in such big trouble.


11 posted on 03/27/2007 4:17:01 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

They are having trouble recruiting new border agents now.


12 posted on 03/27/2007 4:17:58 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: NapkinUser

Bush needs to either pardon these two or trade places with them.


13 posted on 03/27/2007 4:18:00 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: YellowRoseofTx
very miguided, or possibly corrupt, agressive prosecutors

And who put them there?

14 posted on 03/27/2007 4:18:14 PM PDT by mgstarr (People shouldn't fear their government, governments should fear their people.)
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To: buffyt
You are virtually a Newbie.

Excuse me? Why did you say that?

15 posted on 03/27/2007 4:18:56 PM PDT by Chena
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To: YellowRoseofTx
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=86acd7298461c568c149043c420677df

Undocumented Immigrants Recruited to Grow Marijuana in National Park

News Feature, Benito Ortiz, Translated by Miguel A. Báez and Mónica Monroe, Photos: John Tipton,
Noticero Semanal, Feb 28, 2005

Traducción al español

OfficerSEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, Calif. - Sequoia National Park authorities have found at least 40 marijuana fields in the last two years. Last year, five undocumented Mexican immigrants were arrested in one of the fields, according to a National Park Service investigator who did not want to be identified.

"About 95 percent of the people who grow marijuana in this park are illegal aliens," the agent said. "The illegals just work in the fields but the people who really run them are first and second generation Mexican Americans who recruit these illegals, promising them $15,000 cash and sometimes more to grow marijuana for just four months," he said.

These undocumented immigrants are among a group of unemployed day laborers who can be found outside large hardware and construction stores in the San Joaquin Valley, waiting for someone to hire them for a day’s work. Many of them used to work in the fields of the Central Valley.

"Some of them don't even know they were hired to grow marijuana unti they get to the park," the agent said.

But the land owners don't keep their promises to the field workers. Many undocumented farmhands never see their money, either because they get arrested before getting paid or because their bosses disappear with all the drugs, the agent said.

Nearly all the marijuana that has been found and confiscated was grown near rivers or streams on the hillsides. Between 10,000 to 20,000 marijuana plants are grown on each field, whose average size is about one acre. Walking through these areas is difficult because of the roughness and inaccessibility of the land.

The vast vegetation of pine trees, oak trees, bushes and other plants provide these fields with shade and protection. This makes the authorities' job harder. Even with the use of helicopters, finding marijuana fields in the Sequoia National Park is not easy.

How the Pot Growers Operate

Growing marijuana in the Sequoia National Park has become a highly sophisticated process.

"Obviously there are more people behind this and they are the ones that pay for all of this," the agent said.

"(By interrogating people) we have learned that the people in charge have connections with cartels in Mexico," he said. "These cartels send highly trained people to teach the undocumented immigrants how to grow marijuana, and how to find the perfect area for the fields," he added.

The irrigation system in nearly all the fields is also very sophisticated. A drip system provides water to each plant through hidden underground irrigation pipes installed in rivers, or under running water coming from the mountains. Water is pumped uphill through pipes that are activated by solar timers.

"They start growing marijuana between March and April," said Richard Thiel, one of the park's employees. The undocumented immigrants recruited to grow marijuana live in the fields during the four months it takes the plants to grow.

"They live in tents and have drinking water and bathrooms," the agent said. "Besides the workers, there are also one or two armed men," said the agent. These guards don't work in the fields; they just watch the workers to make sure they don't run away and watch for outsiders.

"Every ten days people come to bring them food, fertilizers and pesticides," said the agent said. Sometimes the suppliers don't come for many days and the workers have to go for days without eating.

Many of the people who bring supplies to them are women with children, probably to deter the authorities, according to the investigator.

"But these women, knowing that what they are doing is wrong, ignore the fact that they could also be arrested, in addition to having their car confiscated and their children taken away," the investigator said.

How the Authorities Operate

"It is a crime to take food and leave it by the side of the road," said the agent in charge of the investigation. The crime is even worse when weapons, fertilizers and pesticides are brought into the park.

Rangers Currently, the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) is investigating one of the suppliers with the goal of finding the leaders of the operation.

"As long as we’re just arresting the ones who grow marijuana in the park, we’re not going to solve the problem," the investigator said. "We are going directly for the people at the top."

"There are forest rangers that are trained to lead investigations, detentions and also to continue with the investigations after the arrests are made," he said.

To make the search of the marijuana fields more effective, the park authorities are now using a tracking system, utilizing new and different tactics.

"We will install electronic sensors, satellite detectors and other innovative techniques that have been designed in the last few years," the agent said.

Meanwhile, some groups are trying to make growing marijuana in national parks a federal crime.

"We are trying to charge the detainees with federal crimes and not just for illegal violations, especially since Sequoia Park is a national park under the protection of the federal government," the agent said.

Punishment and sentences
"Planting and growing marijuana in national parks is a crime punishable by up to 20 years in federal prison and a charge of conspiracy that can add five to 10 years," said Alexandra Picavet, public information officer of the National Park Service of the U.S. Department of Interior, assigned to the Sequoia National Park.

"And if there are charges of firearm possession, this adds 10 more years to the original sentence," Picavet said. She added that the suppliers that are arrested for conspiracy can be sentenced to five to 10 years in prison, in addition to having their car confiscated and losing custody of their children.

How it all started
Nobody knows exactly when Sequoia National Park started to be used to grow marijuana, but authorities estimate that this has been going on for many years.

The discovery of the first field at the beginning of 2001 was purely coincidental, according to Thiel.

Thiel said that one day a forest ranger noticed water flowing out of the ground on one of the park’s many small trails. He started to investigate and discovered that the water was coming out of a leak in an underground pipe.

"He tried to tear it out of the ground but the pipe was much longer than he first thought so he continued tearing it out of the ground until he came to a huge marijuana field," Thiel said.

"For his own security, and also as to not alert anyone nearby, he immediately left to alert the authorities," he said.

Hikers have also found fields in the park that they reported to authorities.

Other than confiscating drugs, authorities had confiscated an AK47, shotguns, pistols and .22 caliber rifles.

Meanwhile, the remains of fertilizer and pesticides that the marijuana growers are using have started to cause ecological problems in the forests after they mix with the river water, according to Picavet.

"This is a problem that, if not prevented immediately, can with time cause irreversible harm to plant and animal life in the park," she said.


16 posted on 03/27/2007 4:21:18 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: buffyt

[...They are having trouble recruiting new border agents now...]

I know I'm not sleeping well at night. How about you?


17 posted on 03/27/2007 4:21:39 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: All

It is happening at Yosemite too.


18 posted on 03/27/2007 4:22:15 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Chena

You are excused.


19 posted on 03/27/2007 4:23:07 PM PDT by buffyt (FREE BORDER AGENTS IGNACIO RAMOS & JOSE CAMPEAN NOW!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!)
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To: mgstarr
And who put them there?

They are appointed aren't they? The majority are not misguided or corrupt. It's not the entire system that's bad. And a few misguided or corrupt prosecutors doesn't make the entire administration bad.
20 posted on 03/27/2007 4:24:15 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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