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1 posted on 04/06/2007 9:46:03 AM PDT by narses
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Ping.


2 posted on 04/06/2007 9:46:36 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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3 posted on 04/06/2007 9:52:34 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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So...without spending all day reading this, is it mostly about his relatives, or mostly about Rudy? Rudy’s not my pick in the primaries, but it seems a bit cheap to be going after his dad, cousin, etc.; people he has no control over.


4 posted on 04/06/2007 9:53:51 AM PDT by xjcsa (The "average temperature" of the earth is as meaningful as the "average number" in a phone book.)
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Yeah, and I would also like to know what is in Rudy’s mayoral records he dosen’t want people to see, hiding them away, illegally of course, so the public couldn’t have access to them. He should have been compelled to return them to the public domain as is required by law, but we know Rudy doesn’t think the law pertains to him, don’t we?


5 posted on 04/06/2007 9:56:29 AM PDT by calex59
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To: narses
I have no need or desire to attack Rudy for the sins of his father.

Rudy is fully capable of disqualifying himself for the GOP nomination without the help of any of his relatives.

8 posted on 04/06/2007 9:58:56 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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Giuliani has long described papa Harold as a hard-working Brooklyn tavern owner, a "complete man" who taught him the "lesson of being honest."

However, in examining Rudy's family tree, Barrett discovered that Giuliani the Elder wasn't such a sweetheart. In fact, Harold was a convicted felon, an armed stickup man who once spent time in Sing Sing after pleading guilty to robbing a milkman. Sentenced to 2-5 years, Harold spent 18 months in the stir before being paroled (Rudy, ironically, is a leading proponent of abolishing parole). Barrett also learned that Harold, whose rap sheet included a couple of other busts, worked as an enforcer for a relative's loan sharking operation, using a baseball bat as his enforcement tool of choice.

************

No wonder he felt comfortable with Kerik.

10 posted on 04/06/2007 10:02:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Rudy was highly successful in turning NYC around dramatically, despite some liberal credentials.

Excellent. Perhaps he can do the same for America. I'm not declaring for or against him. Despite the rhetoric on both sides about Rudy, I'll wait and see.

13 posted on 04/06/2007 10:04:30 AM PDT by what's up
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Yep, keep on squeezing that one, single, 7-year-old hit book on Rudy by Village Voice hack Wayne Barrett, and try to pass it off as new info.

Guess that’s all you got on Rudy being a crook. Bummer.


19 posted on 04/06/2007 10:10:25 AM PDT by Jhensy
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NOW we know why the MSM was pushing Guiliani.

the NYC centered MSM is anticipating this book. No wonder they don’t want Fred Thompson, it screws with they NYC mindset planning.


21 posted on 04/06/2007 10:12:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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More GOP hit pieces to ensure Hillary or Obama become POTUS, and you people are still falling for it. Congrats you DNC lemmings.


22 posted on 04/06/2007 10:14:06 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: narses; All

This is a book by one of Giuliani’s enemies from the Gay Paper the Village Voice? Oh lord this stinks to high heaven. You guys will believe anything won’t you?


29 posted on 04/06/2007 10:18:43 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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his family ties to mobsters is an issue

In opposition to the Clintoon machine which can appropriately be termed a ‘mob of thugs’ I see this as a possible advantage. Rudy’s mob ties to Hitlery’s hit-men ties...sounds like an even match to me.


31 posted on 04/06/2007 10:19:39 AM PDT by hardworking (Elect the Clintoons and re-experience explaining 'oral sex' to another batch of little kids.)
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Hello kids!...it's Howdy Rudy time!

Rudy has impressed me as being a New York liberal elitist. He likes the spotlight and cameras, and is downplaying his liberal side.

We've had enough RINO's in office, and we sure don't need another just because he has name recognition and happened to be Mayor on 9/11.

I'll take Thompson, Hunter, Newt, or even Romney before I go for RudyJudy.
35 posted on 04/06/2007 10:28:51 AM PDT by FrankR (Fred Thompson...America's best great hope.....)
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What I see is the same old antiRudy bunch behaving like coyotes and having themselves a lovefest as they pick through the bones of dead people.


36 posted on 04/06/2007 10:31:13 AM PDT by Gop1040
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To: narses

I’m opposed to Rudy’s candidacy because of his support for abortion. But why should we care about his father? Is it because Rudy glossed over his past?


38 posted on 04/06/2007 10:32:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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Here’s some info about Clinton’s dad.

They (Clinton’s dad and mom)were married on September 3, 1943 — less than two months after they met and five weeks before Blythe was shipped overseas by the Army. Virginia knew little about Blythe’s controversial past, including three marriage licenses and three divorces. Blythe, a technician, was stationed in Egypt and Italy repairing engines and heavy equipment. He was a long way from any fighting. During this time, Virginia Kelley graduated from nursing school and returned to Hope to live with her parents, becoming a nurse.

In December 1945 Blythe was honorably discharged from the Army. He had no plans of living in Hope, Arkansas and had a job waiting for him in Chicago selling heavy equipment. In her recollections, Virginia said she reunited with Blythe in November but his military records indicated he did not arrive home from Italy until December 1 - and was discharged on December 7. “This is inconsequential except for one thing: the timing of the conception of Clinton ...nine months before Clinton was born (August 19, 1946), Blythe was still in Italy. Virginia’s answer was that Clinton was born a month early.” (Source: First in His Class)

On Friday, May 17, 1946 Blythe died after his dark blue Buick Sedan rolled twice, landing upside down near a service ditch of a farm. Blythe had been speeding. He survived the car accident but fell into a drainage ditch and drowned trying to make his way to the highway for help.

On August 19, 1946 Virginia gave birth to William Jefferson Blythe IV one month earlier than expected. As a young widow, she took him home to Hervey St., where she lived with her parents. Once home, Virginia’s mother, Edith (who was only 45 years old at the time of her grandson’s birth) took control over the care of the baby, including his feedings and regimented sleeping patterns. When Bill was just one year old, Virginia decided to return to school in Louisiana to get a degree in anesthesiology. She left him in the care of her parents in Hope and went to school in New Orleans because she thought education in Arkansas was sub-standard. Virginia returned to Arkansas when Bill was four years old. Soon thereafter, on June 19, 1950, she married a car salesman she had been dating while pursuing her degree — Roger Clinton. Neither Bill nor Virginia’s parents were at the ceremony because they were opposed to the marriage. Roger moved the three to Hot Springs, Arkansas where he ran the parts department at his brother’s car dealership. Virginia and Roger Clinton had a child, Bill Clinton’s half brother, Roger.

Roger Clinton Sr. turned out to be an alcoholic and abusive to Bill’s mom. When Bill Clinton was 15, his mother and step-father divorced. They quickly reconciled and remarried in August 1962. Although Bill Clinton was opposed to this, his mother insisted on the reconciliation. Afterwards, showing support for his mother’s decision, Bill legally changed his last name to Clinton.

Roger Clinton died of cancer in 1968, when Bill Clinton was 21. Virginia remarried for a third time to Jeff Dwire, a man who ran the most popular beauty parlor in Hot Springs. Clinton’s biography, “First in His Class” revealed that “Dwire was a divorced handyman with a decidedly checkered past. In the early 1960’s he had been convicted in a stock-swindling case and served nine months in prison.”


42 posted on 04/06/2007 10:53:52 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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“Next to that clown Harry Potter, the most anticipated book this summer here in New York City is reporter Wayne Barrett’s blockbuster biography of Rudolph Giuliani, the Big Apple’s badass mayor. Giuliani, as you might have heard, was recently running for U.S. Senate against Hillary Clinton”

THIS IS ANCIENT.

The book has been out for years. Didn’t seem to have made any difference to Rudy’s current standing in the polls and his chances at the presidency.

http://www.amazon.com/Rudy-Investigative-Biography-Rudolph-Guiliani/dp/0465005241


45 posted on 04/06/2007 1:53:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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