[narses]

Rudy was highly successful in turning NYC around dramatically, despite some liberal credentials.

Yeah, by being willing to be a thug.

[what's up]

Yeah, by being willing to be a thug

Yeah...that's the extreme rhetoric I'm talking about which I'm ignoring.

Rudy's no "thug". I may not decide to vote for him in the end but it won't be because I believe he's a "thug".