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Queer IQ: The Gay Couple's Advantage (same sex partners are more honest, affectionate)
Psychology Today ^ | 04/09/07 | Kaja Perina

Posted on 04/09/2007 7:44:05 AM PDT by presidio9

"There will always be a battle between the sexes because men and women want different things," quipped comedian George Burns. "Men want women and women want men." But when men want men and women want women, each couple can circumvent treacherous romantic terrain because partners more closely share sexual appetites and mind-reading abilities than do heterosexual pairs.

Most lesbians don't fear rapacious women and gay men need not always soft-peddle their sexual predilections. On balance, gays and lesbians understand their partners' bodies and biases with a certainty that many a clueless "breeder" yearns for. "Homosexuality could be viewed in some respects as the triumph of the individual's mating intelligence over the gonads' evolutionary interests," argues Geoffrey Miller.

The result is that gay relationships are less mired in deception and perhaps even less prone to friction, according to multiple studies.

"If two guys in a relationship are on the same wavelength, it's going to be very hard for them to deceive one another about their motives, their lusts, their philandering. Whereas between the sexes, each sex presents a socially acceptable form of masculinity or femininity that is reassuring to the other person but not particularly accurate," says Miller.

Romantic lies are, after all, a sort of Rosetta stone on which gender differences are coyly inscribed. Straight men lie about their commitment to the relationship and about their resources, finds psychologist Maureen O'Sullivan. They are also more likely to lie to keep their partner from getting angry at them, a small but telling testament to the wrath of women. Women, in contrast, lie to flatter a man's sense of self and to downplay their interest in other men.

Gay and lesbian couples are not only more honest with one another, they are also more likely to exhibit affection and humor in negotiating relationship stressors, according to John Gottman, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Washington. Gottman compared conflict discussions in gay and straight couples and found that "gays and lesbians talked explicitly about sex and monogamy. Those topics don't come up in 31 years of studying heterosexual couples, who are uptight in discussing sex. In their conversations, you really don't know what they're talking about."

Whether a same-sex edge to mating intelligence makes for longer unions is unclear. Among the couples Gottman studied, the projected break-up rate for homosexuals, over a four-decade span, is a grim 64 percent (gay men are far more likely to split than are lesbians). The 40-year divorce rate for straight couples in first marriages is 67 percent. To amend George Burns: If you wait long enough, every couple wants different things.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 42yrlifeexpectancy; celebrateperversity; homosexualagenda; softpeddle
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1 posted on 04/09/2007 7:44:06 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

What a crock of fudge!


2 posted on 04/09/2007 7:46:06 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: presidio9

And where did they find a representative sample of 40 year gay unions?


3 posted on 04/09/2007 7:46:51 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: presidio9

They are also more prone to suicide, gay bowel syndrome, drug abuse, ‘spousal’ abuse, and herpes on their tonsils. Sorry to be graphic this morning but that’s the way it is. I’m sure there will be follow-up articles detailing these other, ‘more prones’ that are available to our Sodomite neighbors.


4 posted on 04/09/2007 7:46:59 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: presidio9

“clueless “breeder””

Well so much for being nice to all of us breeders.


5 posted on 04/09/2007 7:47:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (A nation that does not honor it warriors will be defeated by a nation that does.)
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To: presidio9

That settles it, we should all be gay. Thanks.


6 posted on 04/09/2007 7:47:14 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I was thinking a bunch of crap but I like your description better.


7 posted on 04/09/2007 7:47:46 AM PDT by cjshapi (Proudly posting without a tagline since 2001)
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To: presidio9
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21527543-2703,00.html

Deaf lesbian chainsaw murder shocks US
8 posted on 04/09/2007 7:48:59 AM PDT by maggief
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To: presidio9
I believe this, but it's hardly a breakthrough.

"I feel like going to Bed, Bath and Beyond today."
"Hey, me too!"

9 posted on 04/09/2007 7:50:42 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: presidio9
"We didn't forget about your $7 late fee for "Willy's Wonka Is Stuck In the Chocolate Factory"


10 posted on 04/09/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by jdm
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To: presidio9
lol.....seriously....omg....rofl!

It's conclusions like this that give psychologists the twitology reputation they enjoy today.  Does anyone know a psychologist who didn't initially go into the field in an attempt to determine the roots of their own mental illness?

 

11 posted on 04/09/2007 7:51:55 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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And where did they find a representative sample of 40 year gay unions?

My first thought was that it would be impossible to get a valid sample. Gay men in this country have a 42 year life expectancy. Presumably, the researchers had to throw out every couple where one or both partners died of AIDS, suicide, and substance abuse.

12 posted on 04/09/2007 7:52:02 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: maggief
Wright is accused of kidnapping and murdering a heterosexual deaf woman, Darlene VanderGiesen, 42, whom she thought was spending too much time with her girlfriend.

See, the article was right. She killed one of them "clueless breeders", not her partner, so gay relationships must be better (she didn't kill her partner, did she???

13 posted on 04/09/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by Dooderbutt (It's God's job to judge the terrorists. It's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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Gay men in this country have a 42 year life expectancy.

That was in the bathhouse 80's. It has lengthened now.

14 posted on 04/09/2007 7:53:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: little jeremiah; Grampa Dave; ItsOurTimeNow

ping


15 posted on 04/09/2007 7:54:00 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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Gottman compared conflict discussions in gay and straight couples and found that "gays and lesbians talked explicitly about sex and monogamy. Those topics don't come up in 31 years of studying heterosexual couples, who are uptight in discussing sex.

As an example:

Adam: "Say, Steve, I'm interested in some nasty sex, and you know darn well that I think monogamy is a crock, so I'm going down to the bus station to hook up with about a dozen strangers. I'll see you later."

Yes, in 31 years of studying heterosexual couples, this sort of conversation has not been observed. Therefore, homosexuals are morally superior. QED.

16 posted on 04/09/2007 7:54:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: presidio9

Psychology Today was a PC pile of dreck 20 years ago and it hasn’t changed. It puts on a nice colorful smiley cover now and is sold on newssstands everywhere but the a priori conclusions are just as prevalent, despite (all together now) science’s aim to be dispassionate.


17 posted on 04/09/2007 7:54:33 AM PDT by relictele
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To: AD from SpringBay

Denmark has the longest history of gay marriage. Data indicates that average married couples live to 78 years, while gay couples (gay men and women) live to their 50’s. Factoring out AIDS, death is mainly from suicides. Even when society tolerates their existance, and they are with another lover, gay people are not fullfilled emotionally and many in the end kill themselves or adopt high risk behavior that leads to health problems (alcohol, drugs, overeating and etc, excluding AIDS) and early death. This data fits the arguement that homosexuality is an emotional problem and not a natural alternative, otherwise why all this high risk behavior associated with psychological disorders?


18 posted on 04/09/2007 7:55:25 AM PDT by Fee
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To: AD from SpringBay

Read the class ads in any publication that targets Gays, they are full of psychiatric groups. As far as honesty? Duh, AIDS.


19 posted on 04/09/2007 7:56:21 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Always Right

“That settles it, we should all be gay. Thanks.”

Why don’t all the men and Rosie O’Donnell-type women in the world decide to be gay right now?

Under such circumstances, I shall be compelled, as a matter of duty, to forsake monogamy in the interest of the preservation of the race. It will be a rough job, but don’t worry about poor me, I will manage somehow, alas.


20 posted on 04/09/2007 7:58:37 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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