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Water Found in Extrasolar Planet's Atmosphere (planet HD209458b)
Space.com on Yahoo ^ | 4/10/07 | Ker Than

Posted on 04/10/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Astronomers have detected water in the atmosphere of a planet outside our solar system for the first time.

The finding, to be detailed in an upcoming issue of Astrophysical Journal, confirms previous theories that say water vapor should be present in the atmospheres of nearly all the known extrasolar planets. Even hot Jupiters, gaseous planets that orbit closer to their stars than Mercury to our Sun, are thought to have water.

The discovery, announced today, means one of the most crucial elements for life as we know it can exist around planets orbiting other stars.

'We know that water vapor exists in the atmospheres of one extrasolar planet and there is good reason to believe that other extrasolar planets contain water vapor,' said Travis Barman, an astronomer at the Lowell Observatory in Arizona who made the discovery.

HD209458b is a world well-known among planet hunters. In 1999, it became the first planet to be directly observed around a normal star outside our solar system and, a few years later, was the first exoplanet confirmed to have oxygen and carbon in its atmosphere.

HD209458b is separated from its star by only about 4 million miles (7 million kilometers)-about 100 times closer than Jupiter is to our Sun-and is so hot scientists think about it is losing about 10,000 tons of material every second as vented gas.

"Water actually survives over a broad range of temperatures," Barman explained. "It would need to get quite a bit hotter to completely break the water molecules apart."

Using a combination of previously published Hubble Space Telescope measurements and new theoretical models, Barman found strong evidence for water absorption in the atmosphere of the extrasolar planet HD209458b.

Barman took advantage of the fact that HD209458b is a so-called 'transiting planet,' meaning it passes directly in front of its star as seen from Earth. It transits every three-and-a-half days.

When this happens, water vapor in the planet's atmosphere causes the planet to appear slightly larger in the infrared part of the starlight than in the visible portion.

Barman found the water signature after applying new theoretical models he developed to visible and infrared Hubble data collected by Harvard student Heather Knutson last year, which measured the perceived size of the planet over a broad range of wavelengths.

"I simulated the passage of starlight through the atmosphere of the planet, and was able to reproduce the variation that they saw," Barman told SPACE.com. "And since I know exactly what physics and chemistry went into my simulation, I know precisely what caused those variations, and I can attribute those variations to water" or other molecules.

Barman said his discovery would not have been possible without the observations made by the Harvard team. "This is an example of theoretical modeling and observations coming together to help identify something new and interesting about this planet," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atmosphere; extrasolar; hd209458b; planet; water; xplanets
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1 posted on 04/10/2007 12:23:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Must have been raining that day.


2 posted on 04/10/2007 12:25:28 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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This is an artist's impression of the gas-giant planet orbiting the yellow, Sun-like star HD 209458, 150 light-years from Earth.
Astronomers used NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to look at this world and make the first direct detection of an atmosphere around an extrasolar planet.

3 posted on 04/10/2007 12:25:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... BumP'n'Run 'Right-Wing Extremist' since 2001 ... My profile is on FiRe!)
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To: KevinDavis

Space ping


4 posted on 04/10/2007 12:25:48 PM PDT by bamahead (I think I am better than the people who are trying to reform me -- E.W. Howe)
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To: NormsRevenge

That’s a Greenhouse Gas! Damn that Bush!


5 posted on 04/10/2007 12:28:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Given that hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe and oxygen is not that far behind, how is the fact that H2O is found just about everywhere a surprise?
6 posted on 04/10/2007 12:33:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Would it be water vapor, or steam—since the planet is so close to its sun?


7 posted on 04/10/2007 12:40:32 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is in non-solid form (i.e. water ice). If it is water vapor, which the article states, that is impressive, as water vapor is liquid water. However, as in the question in an earlier post, if it is so hot, would it be steam (water gas) rather than water vapor?


8 posted on 04/10/2007 12:42:44 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
However, as in the question in an earlier post, if it is so hot, would it be steam (water gas) rather than water vapor?

It would be steam only if there were geysers or boiling lakes spewing steam into the atmosphere. Even the, it would not take that steam very long to either dilute into vapor or condense into clouds or rain.

9 posted on 04/10/2007 12:47:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, & water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen, if there is oxygen, that means we can breathe.” —Vice President Al Gore, 8/11/94


10 posted on 04/10/2007 12:49:53 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Whether it is steam or not depends on the atmospheric pressure (and gravity?) and temperature. The water doesn’t need to come from geysers or lakes to form steam.


11 posted on 04/10/2007 12:50:15 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Algore and Hilarity need to lead the expedition soon!


12 posted on 04/10/2007 12:50:25 PM PDT by colonialhk (Power and Money,the new mantra of the left!)
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To: NormsRevenge
...means one of the most crucial elements for life as we know it can exist...

Life - so simple! All you have to do is add water and life given (enough) time will spring forth.

Never mind of course that intelligent beings have been trying to produce life in controlled settings for decades now - without success...

13 posted on 04/10/2007 12:53:00 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: azhenfud

If Al was any denser, he’d implode.


14 posted on 04/10/2007 12:55:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... BumP'n'Run 'Right-Wing Extremist' since 2001 ... My profile is on FiRe!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“how is the fact that H2O is found just about everywhere a surprise?”

Because it USED to be ice and due to “global warming” it is now in its liquid state?


15 posted on 04/10/2007 12:56:28 PM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

At those temps, it would be plasma!..........


16 posted on 04/10/2007 1:04:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: NormsRevenge

He certainly has a dense core...;-)


17 posted on 04/10/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It would be steam only if there were geysers or boiling lakes spewing steam into the atmosphere. Even the, it would not take that steam very long to either dilute into vapor or condense into clouds or rain.

Sorry, not really true. It would be steam if the temp is above 100 Celcius at one atmosphere of pressure.

With a 3.5 day period for transiting the sun, I'd say this gas giant (since IIRC we have yet to detect any terrestrial sized planets at this range) is most definitely in the hot zone.

18 posted on 04/10/2007 1:55:49 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

would it be steam (water gas) rather than water vapor?


As I understand (recalling from thermodymanics class ~25 years ago) what people think of as “steam” (i.e. that cloud coming out of the teapot) is a mix of water vapor and liquid water droplets. Same as clouds or fog, which are condensed water droplets.

Water in gaseous form IS water vapor.


19 posted on 04/10/2007 2:00:43 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: NormsRevenge; neverdem

Neverdem: you’ll want to see this one.


20 posted on 04/10/2007 2:17:12 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("Salvation is not free")
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