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Sharia Calling ....(physical and psychological violence)
NRO ^ | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 04/11/2007 5:33:13 AM PDT by IrishMike

In a German case in which a Muslim, Moroccan-born 26-year-old mother of two was petitioning for an expedited divorce from a man who had beaten her and threatened her life, Judge Christa Datz-Winter denied the woman’s request, a woman who already had a restraining order on her husband after police were called last May because he attacked her. The reason for the injudicious divorce denial? The Koran, the judge said, instructs that “men are in charge of women.” She explained further that the couple hails from a “Moroccan cultural environment in which it is not uncommon for a man to exert a right of corporal punishment over his wife.” I’m not normally a fan of speedy divorce — or of divorce at all, for that matter. But surely divorce exists for precisely these circumstances.

Clearly, Datz-Winter’s was a reprehensible ruling. But it’s also one that highlights real problems we face all over the world. It’s at the heart of this war we’re in. It’s at the heart of struggles by so-called moderate Muslims who would never dream of beating their wives or condoning anyone who would engage in or justify such brutality.

The ruling epitomizes the struggle that nations — East and West — are facing as they weigh issues of multiculturalism and sharia-law (Islamic law) influences. And it shows that some nations have taken multiculturalism too far.

A friend who would know remarked about the case: “I think we’ve hit a new low. Does the next judge say: ‘We can’t proceed against these jihadists because the Koran says jihad is a Muslim obligation’? Oh, wait a minute, I forgot — a judge already did that in Yemen.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; islam; muhammadsminions; muslim; terrorisn; wot

1 posted on 04/11/2007 5:33:15 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
Multi culturalism uber alles.
2 posted on 04/11/2007 5:36:33 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: IrishMike

What is Islam based on?

Mohammed went into “trances” and fits (like epileptic fits) when he was given the “word of God” and would shout out what he was told. These would be written down by his followers. This is the makeup of the Koran.

When Mohammed was just walking and talking and acting like “normal”, his words and deeds were written down by his followers and this went into the Hadith. Now, acting “normal” for Mohammed was taking 12+ wives (including a 6 year old), taking slaves (including sex slaves), executing infidels, conducting raids for treasure, etc.

Now, this is where it gets complicated.

A large part of the words he spoke in trances were “taken back” by Mohammed. He determined them to be the work of the devil (thus they are called the “Satanic Verses” and these are the same verses that Mr. Salman Rushdie got in trouble for writing about).

Now, how Mohammed determined which verses were from God and which were from Satan I do not know.

Also, there were literally dozens of widely different versions of the Koran and Hadith floating around for several hundred years after Mohammed death until a Fatwah was decreed to destroy all but one version. Now, even Mohammed could not remember what he was told by God and forgot it (those are his words as written in the Hadith) so I do not know how the powers in charge decided which was the correct version.

Also according to the Hadith, Mohammed turned people into monkeys, you can determine a child’s sex depending on whether the male or female has an orgasm first (that advice came directly from the Angel Gabriel), dogs and cats are evil and should be killed, that the devil lives in your nose at night (and how to get rid of him in the morning), chess is forbidden, muslims have one intestine while infidels have seven, don’t pray looking up or your eyes will be snatched away, that one wing of a fly is poison but the other is the cure, that drinking camel urine is good for you and I could go on.

And that Mohammed himself didn’t even know if he was going to heaven. If even Mohammed doesn’t know, what chance does the average muslim have?

And for some non-PC info, Mohammed was described as a white man.

Now, if you can bear it, to compare to the Gospels of New Testament.

Jesus was someone who lived a very humble life and was killed for basically saying he was a King and Son of God (blasphemy) by the powers in charge (Roman and Jewish). The government wanted Jesus destroyed and wanted his growing movement destroyed (as it threatened their power). If, after 3 days, the followers of Jesus proclaimed he has risen from the dead, (just as he predicted), and is truly our Savior, the High Officials would have wanted to destroy such a “myth.” They could have easily done this by producing the dead body of Jesus and saying “Your Messiah is still dead and so is your movement” or producing many eye witnesses of the dead Jesus. But they couldn’t.

The letters that make up the New Testament were written by the eye witnesses of the events of Jesus. They were written in just one generation when many other eye witnesses were still alive. They were written without collusion from other Apostles. Even if any of the Apostles wanted to “add” to the “myth” of Jesus, they would have done so in a very disjointed and easily detectable fashion. Yet, the main Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) that describe the life of Jesus are amazingly in harmony with one another and the small differences are consistent with what we would see today if four people witnessed a major event and wrote about the event apart from each other. The Gospels can be traced back to their sources and are basically unchanged from their originals.

The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.

The stories of Jesus still make sense to us today. It may be because they are true, it may be because they are based in love or it may be because they were written to tell the people of the Word of God.

Regards,

2banana


3 posted on 04/11/2007 5:41:15 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: IrishMike

We need to think about this when our own Supremes makee rulings and claim they are in line with other countries rulings.
They need to rule on United States laws and not pay attention to what other countries are doing.


4 posted on 04/11/2007 5:58:53 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: IrishMike

—good post—hope it gets more viewing after everybody gets up-—


5 posted on 04/11/2007 6:09:18 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: 2banana

The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.
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And because the bible still stands as the truth,
the assault will continue.


6 posted on 04/11/2007 6:16:54 AM PDT by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: IrishMike
Muslim wife: "You're not the boss of me."

Muslim husband, Quran and German courts: "Yes he is."

Why aren't women's advocacy groups taking to the streets? Here's why: the Dems want their power back and then they'll deal ruthlessly with the Muslims. But they've got to get the credit.

7 posted on 04/11/2007 7:07:19 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco

” Why aren’t women’s advocacy groups taking to the streets? “

They are, their just after Imus, he said things.


9 posted on 04/11/2007 7:34:35 AM PDT by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: IrishMike

The U.S. is already on its way with the acceptance of cultural defenses here. Right now the issue is largely tied to criminal law and the frame of mind which is an element of the crime. For example, a woman who tossed her children into the ocean in revenge for her husband’s infidelity was allowed to argue that in Japan that is honorable behavior. She was still guilty of a crime but not first degree murder.

As to whether the cultural defense extends to divorce, child custody and other matters, we are on a slippery slope. As soon as we sublimate our own laws to foreign cultures, we lose the high ground, and the Supreme Court has shown an increasing tendency to look to other nations to determine standards for the U.S. (I guess they like those speaking engagements in Europe).

We need to return to the attitude of “When in Rome, do as the Romans” and hold all persons accountable to U.S. laws, certainly, at least, residents, legal or illegal, to our standards.


10 posted on 04/11/2007 7:40:19 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: John Williams

“They THINK they’ll deal ruthlessly with the Muslims.”

As we can readily see by their Iraq votes, the only enemy with which Democrats will deal ruthlessly is Republicans. They have no stomach for fights where the enemy might strike back.


11 posted on 04/11/2007 7:42:45 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: IrishMike

Good post, thanks.


12 posted on 04/11/2007 7:44:42 AM PDT by lilycicero (SSgt Frank Wuterich and his squad did their job well.)
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To: IrishMike
"Muslims in India have this sense of being degraded," says Sarfaraz Arzu, editor and publisher of The Hindustan Daily, Mumbai's oldest Urdu-language newspaper during an interview in his office on the first floor of a crumbling building near Mohammed Ali Road. "They're not getting their share of the national pie. They see things whizzing past them at high speed. They see growth in all sectors, but are untouched by this growth. They are not the only section of society untouched by this growth, but they are excluded because of their identification as a distinct religious group, which means, in simple terms, that they're targeted for what they are."

If growth is a "pie," you have to bake your share yourself. The sooner Mr. Arzu and others who see it that way learn that, the less trouble India is going to have.

13 posted on 04/11/2007 7:48:28 AM PDT by untenured
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