Posted on 04/11/2007 5:33:13 AM PDT by IrishMike
In a German case in which a Muslim, Moroccan-born 26-year-old mother of two was petitioning for an expedited divorce from a man who had beaten her and threatened her life, Judge Christa Datz-Winter denied the womans request, a woman who already had a restraining order on her husband after police were called last May because he attacked her. The reason for the injudicious divorce denial? The Koran, the judge said, instructs that men are in charge of women. She explained further that the couple hails from a Moroccan cultural environment in which it is not uncommon for a man to exert a right of corporal punishment over his wife. Im not normally a fan of speedy divorce or of divorce at all, for that matter. But surely divorce exists for precisely these circumstances.
Clearly, Datz-Winters was a reprehensible ruling. But its also one that highlights real problems we face all over the world. Its at the heart of this war were in. Its at the heart of struggles by so-called moderate Muslims who would never dream of beating their wives or condoning anyone who would engage in or justify such brutality.
The ruling epitomizes the struggle that nations East and West are facing as they weigh issues of multiculturalism and sharia-law (Islamic law) influences. And it shows that some nations have taken multiculturalism too far.
A friend who would know remarked about the case: I think weve hit a new low. Does the next judge say: We cant proceed against these jihadists because the Koran says jihad is a Muslim obligation? Oh, wait a minute, I forgot a judge already did that in Yemen.
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What is Islam based on?
Mohammed went into “trances” and fits (like epileptic fits) when he was given the “word of God” and would shout out what he was told. These would be written down by his followers. This is the makeup of the Koran.
When Mohammed was just walking and talking and acting like “normal”, his words and deeds were written down by his followers and this went into the Hadith. Now, acting “normal” for Mohammed was taking 12+ wives (including a 6 year old), taking slaves (including sex slaves), executing infidels, conducting raids for treasure, etc.
Now, this is where it gets complicated.
A large part of the words he spoke in trances were “taken back” by Mohammed. He determined them to be the work of the devil (thus they are called the “Satanic Verses” and these are the same verses that Mr. Salman Rushdie got in trouble for writing about).
Now, how Mohammed determined which verses were from God and which were from Satan I do not know.
Also, there were literally dozens of widely different versions of the Koran and Hadith floating around for several hundred years after Mohammed death until a Fatwah was decreed to destroy all but one version. Now, even Mohammed could not remember what he was told by God and forgot it (those are his words as written in the Hadith) so I do not know how the powers in charge decided which was the correct version.
Also according to the Hadith, Mohammed turned people into monkeys, you can determine a child’s sex depending on whether the male or female has an orgasm first (that advice came directly from the Angel Gabriel), dogs and cats are evil and should be killed, that the devil lives in your nose at night (and how to get rid of him in the morning), chess is forbidden, muslims have one intestine while infidels have seven, dont pray looking up or your eyes will be snatched away, that one wing of a fly is poison but the other is the cure, that drinking camel urine is good for you and I could go on.
And that Mohammed himself didn’t even know if he was going to heaven. If even Mohammed doesn’t know, what chance does the average muslim have?
And for some non-PC info, Mohammed was described as a white man.
Now, if you can bear it, to compare to the Gospels of New Testament.
Jesus was someone who lived a very humble life and was killed for basically saying he was a King and Son of God (blasphemy) by the powers in charge (Roman and Jewish). The government wanted Jesus destroyed and wanted his growing movement destroyed (as it threatened their power). If, after 3 days, the followers of Jesus proclaimed he has risen from the dead, (just as he predicted), and is truly our Savior, the High Officials would have wanted to destroy such a “myth.” They could have easily done this by producing the dead body of Jesus and saying “Your Messiah is still dead and so is your movement” or producing many eye witnesses of the dead Jesus. But they couldn’t.
The letters that make up the New Testament were written by the eye witnesses of the events of Jesus. They were written in just one generation when many other eye witnesses were still alive. They were written without collusion from other Apostles. Even if any of the Apostles wanted to “add” to the “myth” of Jesus, they would have done so in a very disjointed and easily detectable fashion. Yet, the main Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) that describe the life of Jesus are amazingly in harmony with one another and the small differences are consistent with what we would see today if four people witnessed a major event and wrote about the event apart from each other. The Gospels can be traced back to their sources and are basically unchanged from their originals.
The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be “disproved” for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.
The stories of Jesus still make sense to us today. It may be because they are true, it may be because they are based in love or it may be because they were written to tell the people of the Word of God.
Regards,
2banana
We need to think about this when our own Supremes makee rulings and claim they are in line with other countries rulings.
They need to rule on United States laws and not pay attention to what other countries are doing.
—good post—hope it gets more viewing after everybody gets up-—
The Bible is the most investigated historical document in the history of the world. It has been investigated by scientists, philosophers and archeologists using technology undreamed of when the Bible was written. It is been desperately tried to be disproved for over 2000 years, yet, the Bible still stands as the truth.
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And because the bible still stands as the truth,
the assault will continue.
Muslim husband, Quran and German courts: "Yes he is."
Why aren't women's advocacy groups taking to the streets? Here's why: the Dems want their power back and then they'll deal ruthlessly with the Muslims. But they've got to get the credit.
” Why aren’t women’s advocacy groups taking to the streets? “
They are, their just after Imus, he said things.
The U.S. is already on its way with the acceptance of cultural defenses here. Right now the issue is largely tied to criminal law and the frame of mind which is an element of the crime. For example, a woman who tossed her children into the ocean in revenge for her husband’s infidelity was allowed to argue that in Japan that is honorable behavior. She was still guilty of a crime but not first degree murder.
As to whether the cultural defense extends to divorce, child custody and other matters, we are on a slippery slope. As soon as we sublimate our own laws to foreign cultures, we lose the high ground, and the Supreme Court has shown an increasing tendency to look to other nations to determine standards for the U.S. (I guess they like those speaking engagements in Europe).
We need to return to the attitude of “When in Rome, do as the Romans” and hold all persons accountable to U.S. laws, certainly, at least, residents, legal or illegal, to our standards.
“They THINK they’ll deal ruthlessly with the Muslims.”
As we can readily see by their Iraq votes, the only enemy with which Democrats will deal ruthlessly is Republicans. They have no stomach for fights where the enemy might strike back.
Good post, thanks.
If growth is a "pie," you have to bake your share yourself. The sooner Mr. Arzu and others who see it that way learn that, the less trouble India is going to have.
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