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LA police sued for not seeking immigration status of suspects
AP via SFGate ^ | 4/11/7 | PETER PRENGAMAN

Posted on 04/11/2007 6:29:51 PM PDT by SmithL

Los Angeles (AP) -- Opponents of illegal immigration on Wednesday sued the Los Angeles Police Department, taking aim at its long-standing "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding suspects' immigration status.

The Superior Court lawsuit seeks to force officers to inform federal immigration officials when illegal immigrants are arrested on drug charges.

Department policy prohibits officers from inquiring about the immigration status of suspects, a policy strongly supported by Police Chief Chief William Bratton and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

The suit was brought on behalf of unidentified police officers who are afraid to speak out but argue the policy creates a situation where the same illegal immigrants are repeatedly arrested when they could have been deported, said lawyer David Klehm.

"This is being done at the request of the police officers," said Klehm. "Everyone I spoke to told me their hands were tied with this policy."

The suit is based on a section of the state's Health and Safety Code, which states that in drug cases involving a non-citizen "the arresting agency shall notify the appropriate agency of the United States having charge of deportation."

Klehm, an anti-illegal immigration activist based in Orange County, filed a similar against the San Jose Police Department a few weeks ago.

Since being adopted in 1979, Los Angeles' Special Order 40 has become a mainstay of police departments across the country. Proponents argue that if police start enforcing immigration law, immigrants — both legal and otherwise — will not report crimes or help police in investigations.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; lapd; sanctuarycities; santuarycities; specialorder40
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1 posted on 04/11/2007 6:29:53 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Good.

When all else fails, money talks.


2 posted on 04/11/2007 6:31:37 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: SmithL
Without trust, the community is not willing to partner with us in reporting or solving crimes," said police spokeswoman Mary Grady.

Sounds harsh but if the "trust" wasn't there and illegal bangers preyed on illegal aliens maybe they'd pack up and go home.

3 posted on 04/11/2007 6:32:33 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Encourage illegal immigration! Maybe you too can be hit and killed by a drunk driver!)
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To: SmithL

“if police start enforcing immigration law, immigrants — both legal and otherwise — will not report crimes or help police in investigations.”

What??? They should be deported as well.


4 posted on 04/11/2007 6:34:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: VeniVidiVici

LA has probably a million illegals.

You can’t run a city when a million of its inhabitants are afraid to talk to the police. That will only develop an underworld ghetto run by criminals.

Hence, the illegals have to know that they can contact the police and even testify in court without being prosecuted
because of their illegal status.


5 posted on 04/11/2007 6:35:45 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: SmithL

Maybe they know O’Reilly is going after LA next.


6 posted on 04/11/2007 6:44:30 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: CondorFlight

“That will only develop an underworld ghetto run by criminals.”

As opposed to the current underworld ghetto run by criminals in the illegal communities.


7 posted on 04/11/2007 6:46:35 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: CondorFlight

MAN OH MAN THIS SAYS IT ALL: Without trust, the community is not willing to partner with us in reporting or solving crimes-LAPD if they can’t do the job, get the hell out of the way and send in the Marines....this is going to go hot and break into a war soon....friggin police better decide who they work for...this is so stupid stupid stupid!


8 posted on 04/11/2007 6:46:40 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: CondorFlight

LA has probably a million illegals.

You can’t run a city when a million of its inhabitants are afraid to talk to the police. That will only develop an underworld ghetto run by criminals.

Hence, the illegals have to know that they can contact the police and even testify in court without being prosecuted
because of their illegal status.”

I will raise your million by 3.....


9 posted on 04/11/2007 6:48:00 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SmithL
Without trust, the community is not willing to partner with us in reporting or solving crimes

Why would the police dept. "partner" with criminals to report or solve crimes? This sounds idiotic.

10 posted on 04/11/2007 6:50:50 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ridesthemiles
That will only develop an underworld ghetto run by criminals.

The illegal invaders have already done this.

11 posted on 04/11/2007 6:53:22 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SmithL

“unidentified police officers who are afraid to speak out “

Police officers ‘afraid to speak out’, they can’t be honest, because the ‘system’ isn’t working,
time to change their ‘rules of engagemnet’.


12 posted on 04/11/2007 6:55:00 PM PDT by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: Prokopton

“Why would the police dept. “partner” with criminals to report or solve crimes? This sounds idiotic.”

Bingo. Deport the illegals and you don’t need their trust.


13 posted on 04/11/2007 6:55:51 PM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: CondorFlight
Hence, the illegals have to know that they can contact the police and even testify in court without being prosecuted because of their illegal status.

They have another alternative. Don't come here illegally and if they are already here illegally, GO HOME!

14 posted on 04/11/2007 6:55:58 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: SmithL

“Proponents argue that if police start enforcing immigration law, immigrants — both legal and otherwise — will not report crimes or help police in investigations.”

“immigrants... legal.....”

Nooooooo Legal immigrants are not fugitives from the law...

I’m a legal immigrant.. I’m NOT afraid to report crimes if necessary...

In other words... ((( YOU DONT TALK FOR ME)))

(((STOP DISENFRANCHISING ME IN MY OWN COUNTRY)))


15 posted on 04/11/2007 6:56:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: CondorFlight

“You can’t run a city when a million of its inhabitants are afraid to talk to the police. That will only develop an underworld ghetto run by criminals.”

They are already culturally averse to speaking to the police as it is. As for an underworld ghetto run by criminals... it already exists in the form of gangs, car theft rings, etc...


16 posted on 04/11/2007 6:57:12 PM PDT by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: CondorFlight
Hence, the illegals have to know that they can contact the police and even testify in court without being prosecuted because of their illegal status.

Considering that the law referenced talks about deporting suspects who have been arrested in drug cases, this whole "otherwise illegals won't talk to the police" argument is BS.

17 posted on 04/11/2007 6:58:45 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Ultimately, the only way is to scare them into taking off.


18 posted on 04/11/2007 7:20:21 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: CondorFlight

“Hence, the illegals have to know that they can contact the police and even testify in court without being prosecuted
because of their illegal status.”

Oh come now, that is a complete twist of what is going on. The police can’t even report the illegal status OF ILLEGALS CAUGHT WITH DRUGS! Are you saying we should worry about illegal aliens, who are peddling illegal drugs, suddenly clamming up? Like they were saying anything in the first place, and weren’t intimidating witnesses? That is beyond ludicrous.

Some statements are just idiotic on their face.


19 posted on 04/11/2007 7:43:27 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: VeniVidiVici
Without trust, the community is not willing to partner with us in reporting or solving crimes," said police spokeswoman Mary Grady.

When most law abiding people realize that they can't trust the government and their agents to uphold the law, soon they will give up in frustration and take the law into their own hands. That will be much worse.

20 posted on 04/11/2007 7:56:19 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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