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A-ha.

Let's see what some real journalists can do with this minor detail. Did the shooter become a Muslim before his spree?

1 posted on 04/17/2007 2:07:29 PM PDT by Bosco
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To: Bosco

I think the new media should get some credit for keeping this angle alive.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 2:08:46 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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They are just now getting this? Freepers here posted it hours ago.


3 posted on 04/17/2007 2:09:19 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Bosco

Multiculturists mongers will be pleased.


4 posted on 04/17/2007 2:09:59 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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It is estimated that there are up to 40,000 Muslim adherents in Korea, excluding resident migrant workers. In South Korea, the Muslim population has been steadily increasing since the introduction of the faith shortly after the Korean War. The Muslim community is centered around Seoul, where the first large 20th-century mosque was built in 1976 using the funds of the Malaysian Islamic Mission and other Islamic countries. - Wiki
5 posted on 04/17/2007 2:10:37 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Why didn't the VT gunman didn't attack the police station?)
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Check some of the other threads about the s—this is all over them.


6 posted on 04/17/2007 2:11:11 PM PDT by pa mom
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I saw it as similar to Ishmael who was the biblical son of Abraham whose’ descendants founded islam.


7 posted on 04/17/2007 2:11:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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Oi...

Here we go again...

Yes, he was friggin Al Qaeda.


10 posted on 04/17/2007 2:12:33 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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Did dry cleaning solvents affect his brain?


12 posted on 04/17/2007 2:13:17 PM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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You are JUST seeing that now? You about 8 hours late with this bit of news


13 posted on 04/17/2007 2:13:37 PM PDT by SengirV
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He also uses the word “Debauchery” which is clearly defined in the Koran and other Islamic writings like

“Burkha Vs Bikini
The Debauchery Of American Womanhood”

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/womens/burka_vs_bikini.htm

17 posted on 04/17/2007 2:16:41 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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Islamic account of the Biblical sacrifice of Abraham
or the Jewish or the Christian version, are there different versions? I thought Abraham was the common thread for all three?


21 posted on 04/17/2007 2:18:40 PM PDT by SF Republican
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The ten-page play he wrote was posted on another thread.

The play makes no mention of Islam, and deals with subjects a Muslim would be very unlikely to write about.

Also, none of the people who knew him have mentioned it yet. It’s just about impossible to be a secret practicing Muslim.

I highly doubt he was a convert.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 2:19:39 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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If the guy was a moslem it will come out. I thought it was odd that there was a "get together" aka "convocation" within hours of the murders. And that some imam was spewing at the event for what seemed like a long time to me. Some freepers thought the "convocation" was A-OK for various reasons. But I wonder why anyone would want to have a "meeting" on campus while some parents likely had not even seen their kids bodies or were in a frame of mind to attend such an event if they had made it to the school yet.

I have to admit I don't like the word "convocation", it's an antiseptic word to use when you are trying to describe an event where a whole lot of praying is going on.

Seems to me like there may be something more to this story regarding the killer and the cutters off of heads. Maybe not, but right now I wonder.

26 posted on 04/17/2007 2:22:10 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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Dr. ISMAIL AK is a Professor of Psychiatry at a university in Turkey. His research interests include the following:

Personal Disorders, Agresivve behavior and self-mutilation, ECT, Substance-related disorders, Sexual Disorders, Forensic Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders

From the Turkish Association of Psychopharmacology website:

President-elect:
Professor Ismail AK, M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.

Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc.:

As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . .

This is an abstract of an article co-written by Dr. ISMAIL AK:

Even though all psychiatric disorders do not have the same potential with regard to committing a crime, the number of individuals having psychiatric disorders is gradually going up depending on the increase of crimes and violent behaviors committed in a society. . . . The relation between existence of psychiatric disorder and crime behavior has been significantly emphasized in several earlier studies. In conclusion, it is notable that the rates of committing crime for the individuals with psychiatric disorders are on the rise.

Dr. Ismail Ak is apparently one of the world's leading experts on the psychiatry of antisocial and suicidal behavior, psychotic and bipolar disorders, psychopharmacological therapy, etc.

The young man had been noticed to be disturbed and had been referred to counseling. Dr. Ismail Ak is an expert and author in the particular field most directly related to the guy's disorder.

So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said

ISMAIL AK

and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said

ISMAIL AX

That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism.

This is an angle the investigators need to pursue with the school's counseling service, the killer's computer, and Dr. Ismail Ak himself.

31 posted on 04/17/2007 2:31:36 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (You've got Ismail!)
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"taking medication for depression ...set fire to a dorm room and stalked women ...troubled ...didn't reach out to anyone ...never talked"

Geesh!!! ...no warning signs here???

32 posted on 04/17/2007 2:32:50 PM PDT by I'mPeach
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GREEN FLOWER STREET
(Donald Fagen)
From the Warner Bros. album The Nightfly (1982)

Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
I'd like to know what's on his mind
He says hey buddy you're not my kind

Where the nights are bright
And joy is complete
Keep my squeeze on Green Flower Street

© 1982 Freejunket Music ASCAP. All rights adm. by Chappell & Co. Inc. (Intersong Music, Publishers).
Source

37 posted on 04/17/2007 2:39:12 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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This guy calls the Muslim angle "bunk" and has declared he is "de-bunking" the theory. Perhaps some here should re-bunk the theory.
44 posted on 04/17/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
Lou Chang
Her brother he's burning with rage
I'd like to know what's on his mind
He says hey buddy you're not my kind

46 posted on 04/17/2007 3:10:34 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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Let's see what some real journalists can do with this minor detail. Did the shooter become a Muslim before his spree?

If they find out it, this whole story will be BURIED.

51 posted on 04/17/2007 3:14:18 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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Anger, paranoia, withdrawal, bizarre mentation are the hallmarks of schizophrenia. This disorder begins in adolescence or early adulthood and its first symptoms are often believed as a new reality and accompanied by strong emotion and acting on aggressive impulses.

One would think a college as big as this would have in-house training for the dorm counselors and others who would then alert Administration. IMHO the problem is colleges have given up their parental responsibilities under the guise of being open and fair.

Being open and liberal minded hurts no one unless you have a catastrophic situation as this case illustrates.

Some lawyer is going to make money and a name for himself pursing this school’s failure to protect.


54 posted on 04/17/2007 3:44:44 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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