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To: theBuckwheat
There is a dilemna as I used to work with the adolescent criminally insane. You have the police arresting and doing their jobs. You have sacred bleeding heart lawyers that decide murderers and assaulters need mental health, not jail time. Then they get to the mental health facility and people have to find justification for keeping them there and also policing the dangerous ones when they're preying on the really mentally ill

Then you have the problem with pressures from administrators who are being stressed by people in our government to show their new mental illness techniques are actually working when they're not. Then you have problems with pressures on Social workers and the Psych nurses either ignoring severe behaviour or turning a blind eye so as, a) not to get reamed by the patient b) not to p*ss off the administration as a horn blower c) being obsequious to a failing system that merely wants turnover to make their pie charts look efficient.

I've personally seen and heard patients threastening to kill their children, their parents etc and then MAYBE a Tara Sof is written but more than likely not and they follow through on their threats. Thankfully I'm out of the profession as I was charting everything and was not very well liked in the hospital as my charting made everyone, including their policies look like cr*p. Seriously, when the police are throwing them in the hospitals and the mental health officials are pressured to toss them back on the streets the whole system needs and overhaul and it's not going to happen as there's too many big wigs, talking heads and money involved with mental health advocacy groups that are basically endeavoring to have the patient make rational decisions and annexing consequences for severe dangerous behaviour.

JMHO

7 posted on 04/20/2007 11:14:13 AM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: All

VT is in a no-win situation here.

Had VT expelled Cho, his parents (or ACLU or some bleeding heart organization) would have sued VT for violating his rights under ADA or whatever ruse they come up with.

As it is, some ambulance-chasing trial lawyer will sign up as many parents of the dead as he can, and sue VT into bankruptcy.

So, as conservatives, what do you think VT could or should have done differently (if anything), given the risks on all sides?


8 posted on 04/20/2007 11:43:36 AM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Star Scout!)
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To: Karliner

Good points and information.


10 posted on 04/20/2007 12:21:42 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Karliner
I've personally seen and heard patients threastening to kill their children, their parents etc and then MAYBE a Tara Sof is written but more than likely not and they follow through on their threats.

What is a Tara Sof?

22 posted on 04/20/2007 2:07:13 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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