Tough road for Republicans w / Emerging Church Christians

[Steve_Seattle]

"There are many, many christians who are conservative on abortion and homosexuality but who are not fiscal conservatives."

I'm kind of in that camp, but I AM a fiscal conservative on the budget and deficit spending, and the Bush Republicans have blown that issue too. I remember thinking while all that wrangling was going on in Florida after the 2000 election, that the guy who won might end up wishing he hadn't. Somehow I felt an ill wind blowing, and that miserable, cold wet weather on Bush's first election day just reaffirmed my foreboding.

[Waryone]

Obama is the biggest pro baby murderer running today. If they will vote for Him, they definitely need to go back to their Bibles.

What kind of “Christian” board do you go to that is pro abortion? I can’t say I’ve run into any of this except a few who have joined boards recently and are trying to sway people.

It may be like the situation we are having now on Freerepublic. There are people with an agenda who are trying to control the blogosphere the way they control the media. Just as here on this board, there may be a few liberals and RINOs out there thinking they can stir things up or at least confuse conservatives into giving up early or supporting liberal candidates. The easiest way to stop them on a Christian board is with God’s Word. No Bible believing Christian is willing to sacrifice babies for a global warming candidate.

[Steve_Seattle]

“Social justice” and “peace and justice” are indeed leftists code words, or phrases. People who use those terms love Castro and hate Bush.

[bereanway]

South American church was much different with various movements like liberation theology playing a prominent role. The backbone of the Religious Right is not fiscal (although most are fiscally conservative) but rather social conservatism. Again, the only people listening are the libs and others who would be considered Christian in only the most nominal sense. That is not the Religious Right and it is not those who subscribe to a biblical worldview (in fact just the opposite).

[wideawake]

As far as I can tell, you're close.

It seems to be a movement of people who enjoy the trappings of feelgood, megachurch Rick Warrenism but who think its gauche to criticize personal immorality.

It's much easier to call for "social justice" than to say: "Stop murdering babies!"

[henkster]

Just a fancy name for “The Church of What’s Happenin’ Now.”

Living the Word isn’t easy, it’s tough. These people don’t have the guts to live it out; they want easy answers and a soft life. “No sin” means “no consquences” to them.

And Satan laughs...

[Patriotic1]

It’s more about attempting to do Christianity without so much of the usual Church baggage.

Care to explain that a bit more?

[Waryone]

"Many, many christians are NOT fiscal conservatives. They are very weak on the message of socialism."

I keep hearing the fiscal conservatives say this. I wonder if they really don't understand what the Bible says when it calls Christians to feed the sick, the poor, the orphan, and widow. It does not say anything about coercing other people into giving up their hard earned funds.

If you believe in the Bible you won't believe in stealing from non-Christians in order to do the work that we as Christians have been given to complete.

[Patriotic1]

I think what social justice is, and what some people mean when they say it are 2 different things.

For example, cheating the poor out of their just wages is a terrible sin. I would think social justice addresses that. Child labor laws, not following basic safety laws for workers, etc are things that come to my mind.

But again, if a leftist is talking...

[Coldwater Creek]

Bellevue Baptist, Cordova, Tenn. Cornerstone of So. Baptist.

Is in a horrible mess. Check wwwsavingbellevue.org.

[Son-Joshua]

I have noticed a huge push of secularism in the Church during the last 20 years. Many Christians are more concerned about feeling good versus sound Christian doctrine. In addition, this global warming fraud being perpetrated by the left has influenced many Christians such as that famous preacher in So. California who wrote that famous book that everyone read. The problem I have with this global warming issue is the flawed science, and for Christians we come close to worshiping the creation (ghia) versus the creator! Scripture requires that we are good stewards, but not at the expense of siding with the godless left. Pardon the tangent in my response.

[Coldwater Creek]

Not true! You can thank Rick Warren.

[cookcounty]

"What is an “Emerging Church Christian”?

Sounds like they're glorying in the fact that they were born yesterday? ...Or born again yesterday?

[Coldwater Creek]

Thanks for your sacrifice. My husband is ex-Navy and one of our boys is a a Naval officer.

[Lurking in Kansas]

Emerging Church Christian: Their life revolves around rock music, special coffees and eating french-fries during a 20 minute sermon.

Yeah, and they all seem to be under age 40, usually under age 30.

[Coldwater Creek]

Not necessarily so. I attend a church with 30,000 members. Most are college grads and many many are doctors, lawyers, highly paid Fed Ex employees. and so on.

My church is increasingly becoming part of the emerging movement.

[Lurking in Kansas]

Sounds like they're glorying in the fact that they were born yesterday? ...Or born again yesterday?

I think born again is a no-no in the emerging movement. Too old-fashioned.

[Coldwater Creek]

At my church your list is preferable to listening to the shallow pastor!

[Coldwater Creek]

I have an aunt and uncle that were So. Baptist missionaries for 40 years, and think that Bill Clinton hung the moon.

[Gil4]

"...during a 20 minute sermon"

Aauuugghhh! You said the S word!!!

(Sermon - they hate that. It's a "progressional dialog.")