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Judge wants change in federal treatment of 'illegal aliens'
Gettysburg Times ^ | April 28, 2007 | JOHN MESSEDER

Posted on 04/28/2007 2:30:41 AM PDT by csvset

A state Superior Court judge called for a grassroots effort to change federal laws which he said currently allow legal immigrants and U.S. citizens to be prosecuted for unlawful activity, but prohibits prosecution of “illegal aliens.”

“It’s happening in communities like Gettysburg and Shenandoah and Tamaqua,” Judge Correale “Corry” F. Stevens told members of the Adams County Republican Committee Thursday evening at the county ag center, “and it could happen in Black Horse Tavern and Aspers and Zora.” For example, he said state police stopped a van for speeding on an interstate and detained the four “illegals” they found inside.

“They called ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) and they were told, ‘Let them go,’” Stevens said. “The policemen had no choice.”

He offered several additional examples showing that in situations that would result in arrest for legal immigrants and U.S. citizens, illegal aliens would be set free.

The lack of ICE staff and the fact that the nearest ICE office is in Philadelphia likely are part of the problem, but so is a federal law which gives federal authorities sole jurisdiction over illegal aliens in nearly every instance except murder.

“The federal policy is non-enforcement,” he said.

He contrasted the practice with procedures in France, where a person found to be in the country illegally could be jailed “if they don’t boot you out.”

He said voters should ask their federal senators and representatives to amend the federal law to give:

4 police the power to arrest;

4 county district attorneys the power to prosecute; and

4 county judges the powers to deport;

all without needing the permission of the federal government.

“They’re committing crimes and the federal government is not doing anything,” Stevens said.

The judge is a former Luzerne County state representative, district attorney and Common Pleas judge who was elected to the 15-judge state Superior Court 10 years ago.

He will appear on the November General Election ballot as a candidate for retention to that post.

Superior Court hears all criminal appeals and most civil appeals, and its rulings have the effect of law statewide unless they are overturned by the state Supreme Court.

 

Readers may contact John Messeder at johnm@gburgtimes.com


1570 Fairfield Road, P.O. Box 3669, Gettysburg, PA 17325
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TOPICS: Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aliens; fedgov; iceicebaby; illegal
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The response from Washington? {crickets}
1 posted on 04/28/2007 2:30:43 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Failed president bump


2 posted on 04/28/2007 2:43:40 AM PDT by RodgerD (Amnesty = Mexico-Merger = Treason)
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To: RodgerD
Failed president bump

He's not a failure in what he set out to do. He has destroyed this country as we knew it. He is only a failure in the eyes of those of us who voted for him thinking he would look after our interests.

3 posted on 04/28/2007 3:33:05 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: csvset
treatment of 'illegal aliens'

When you read illegals in "quotes" you know the author is denying reality.

4 posted on 04/28/2007 3:33:20 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: csvset

More proof that Bush is not serious about stopping illegal immigration. What is this dunce serious about? His next comedy routine at some Washington social event? A bad review might force his resignation. I hope.


5 posted on 04/28/2007 4:00:51 AM PDT by libbybelle (coffee is for closers)
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To: csvset
“They called ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) and they were told, ‘Let them go,’” Stevens said. “The policemen had no choice.”

This has been the standard method of operations for many decades! It is very simple really, at the point that the locals are told to hold the illegals, the Feds are responsible for the costs (anywhere from $50 - $150 PER ILLEGAL... PER DAY, and will receive a bill!. I have seen countless times when even illegals with outstanding warrants have been "caught & released" due to the budgetary impact!

I have observed times where the BP budget was so tight (typically in the last few months of the fiscal year) that vehicles were parked to save fuel costs and BP agents were ordered to just perform office & maintenance activities. Those not fully jaded on the way the system works would ride with other LEOs to be able to show a presence and be able to "catch & release" rather than be chained to a desk in the office!

It is all a game..., we don't have secure identification systems in this country and various disparate "interest groups" (ranging from church groups and labor unions through employer associations) fight any attempts to really enforce immigration laws!

6 posted on 04/28/2007 4:02:56 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: ExSES


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7 posted on 04/28/2007 4:44:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: csvset
"...federal laws...allow legal immigrants and U.S. citizens to be prosecuted for unlawful activity, but prohibits prosecution of 'illegal aliens.'"

When half the U.S. electorate defers to the judgment of '60s hippies, what else would anyone expect?

We are witnessing one of the most dangerous--possibly the most dangerous--threat to Western Civilization in history--soul-rotting decadence.

This is the Post-Enlightenment. Truth, logic, liberty, freedom of speech, freedom of thought are condemned. George Orwell's nightmare has proven prophetic.

This decadence, which manifests as illogic, mendacity as a virtue, oppression camouflaged as liberty, criminalization of freedom of speech and thought, even names itself, in Newspeak lingo, "Liberalism", though it in fact is the exact opposite.

Western Europe is lost to this decadence. It's a matter of demographics and time.

The Democrat Party, American university faculties, and the U.S. newsmedia have succumbed to it and are its promoters and enablers.

Lying is a virtue. Propaganda has replaced education and news reporting.

This decadence promises to destroy Western Civilization where the horrors of the Black Plague, the Middle Ages, and all the fratricidal wars failed.

There are bastions of strength and resistance to the decay. Middle America is the greatest, strongest, and healthiest. They may prevail. Pray that they do.

8 posted on 04/28/2007 5:03:44 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Marxism works only in the minds of sociopaths and morons. The Democrat Party is the Party of S&M.)
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To: SkyPilot
When you read illegals in "quotes" you know the author is denying reality.

First, the author doesn't write the headlines. Second, in this case, they are highlighting the phrase "illegal alien" as the subject of the story.

I am not sure where your criticism stems from but it really makes no sense.

9 posted on 04/28/2007 5:08:10 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: csvset

In ABSTRACT terms, this is the conspiratorial view of what’s going on vis-à-vis the INVASION of the illegals here:

The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico – and many of the OTHER states of Central and South America — and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:

· It takes pressure off the 60 or so families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!

· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.

While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.

Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.

Now for the SPECIFICS of the matter:

My take on Bush’s role in all of this is:
1. His long and apparently positive experience with the large hispanic population in Texas is largely responsible for his inaction on this alien invasion. And why wouldn’t HIS experience with them be positive as he traveled in the highest, best-educated circles among them, not the Hispanic gangbangers and pine-straw spreaders...
2. His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream “ethnocentric bigot” at me, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. But that fact — and the first item — DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.
And if — in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty — Jeb should win the White House, I’d bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W’s behavior look like a warm-up exercise.

Any vestige of white European culture will be a distant memory.


10 posted on 04/28/2007 6:03:42 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: libbybelle
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11 posted on 04/28/2007 6:09:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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Ping!


12 posted on 04/28/2007 6:35:11 AM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: HiJinx

What kind of conservative insists on the myth that the feds can take care of his problems? My kind believes in local control, states rights and personal responsibility. I know what the constitution says, but if you still believe that the fed can control illegal immigration then you are also probably very afraid of C02.


13 posted on 04/28/2007 7:40:15 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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if you still believe that the fed can control illegal immigration then you are also probably very afraid of C02.

I don't see what one has to do with the other, but I'll tell you this much. I'm not the kind of person who gives up because a task is difficult. I don't expect my government to roll over and play dead in this situation. I do expect 'the fed' to do more than erect a virtual fence.

If you're willing to give up, so be it. You have free will and an opinion. I just happen not to share your opinion.

14 posted on 04/28/2007 7:47:12 AM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: HiJinx

I am not willing to give up, nor am I willing to live in a country swarming with federal agents. You entirely missed my point. Maybe you don’t know that the fed is supposed to have limited power and we do not live under a dictator. As the judge says, people must take charge on local levels. That is, by the way, a major difference between conservatives and libs who want an all powerful central government.


15 posted on 04/28/2007 7:56:38 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: RodgerD

BTTT


16 posted on 04/28/2007 7:58:05 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: ClaireSolt
Maybe you don’t know that the fed is supposed to have limited power and we do not live under a dictator.

That's certainly uncalled for. I'm not stupid.

Okay, my take on the illegal immigration issue is that three things need to happen to resolve it. The employment incentive must go away, criminal aliens (those who broke more than just the illegal entry laws) must be deported, and the border must be secured.

Living on the border as I do, that last facet of the resolution is actually the first as far as I'm concerned. In fact, I used to display a tagline that said "Seal the dike, drain the swamp". And border security is not an individual responsibility. It is a responsibility of the federal government.

So, while I don't disagree that there are local responsibilities involved, there is indeed a job that our government must do and is not doing.

17 posted on 04/28/2007 8:05:29 AM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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The lack of ICE staff and the fact that the nearest ICE office is in Philadelphia likely are part of the problem

Duh!

18 posted on 04/28/2007 8:15:43 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Shhh, I'm hunting RINOs.)
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To: HiJinx

So, how has that worker out for you? as Dr Phil says. You live on the border and have experienced the ill effects for many years. But your belief that it is a fed responsibility led you to act helpless and wait until it got to be a problem in Pennsylvania. There are all sorts of levels of responsibility that undergird the ability of the feds to do the job. Property owners defend against tresspass. Cities, states, and counties have borders too. Gradually these are providing for training to work with ICE and the integrated system is being restored. Without the agreement of the populace and cooperation of local lawa enforcement the feds could only do what some advocate in Iraq, martial law.


19 posted on 04/28/2007 8:24:11 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
But your belief that it is a fed responsibility led you to act helpless

You've been on FR long enough to know that that's an ignorant statement.

B'bye.

20 posted on 04/28/2007 8:30:46 AM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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