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Veto Makes Democrats Weigh Concessions
AP Via SFGate ^ | 5/2/7 | CHARLES BABINGTON

Posted on 05/02/2007 8:09:57 AM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON, (AP) -- President Bush showed little appetite for compromise Wednesday, hours ahead of a session with congressional leaders aimed at crafting a new bill to fund the war in Iraq.

Fresh from his Tuesday night veto of spending legislation that set timelines for U.S. troop withdrawals, Bush stuck firmly to his demands on what a follow up bill should look like. The Democrats who control of Capitol Hill, and their Republican counterparts, were due at the White House Wednesday afternoon for discussions with the president, just after a planned attempt in the House — sure to fail — to override Bush's veto.

The 1 p.m. EST vote was primarily procedural, as Democrats lacked the two-thirds majority needed to override the veto.

"I am confident that with goodwill on both sides that we can move beyond political statements and agree on a bill that gives our troops the funds and flexibility to do the job that we asked them to do," the president said in a speech in Washington before The Associated General Contractors of America.

Of the original bill pushed through Congress by Democrats, Bush said: "It didn't make any sense to impose the will of politicians over the recommendations of our military commanders in the field."

The president defended his argument that U.S. troops must remain in Iraq to help stabilize that country, even as he predicted that "casualties are likely to stay high."

"If I didn't think it was necessary for the security of our country, I wouldn't put our kids in harm's way," Bush said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cultureofcutandrun; dhimmicrats; expandthecaliphate; islamophiles; nosurrender; shariasupporters; veto

1 posted on 05/02/2007 8:10:01 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Concession!? How about funding our troops you collective POSs!


2 posted on 05/02/2007 8:12:50 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SmithL
Is it just me, or does anyone else have the feeling that this is something of a dog and pony show, from BOTH sides. Both sides are benifiting here, the Dems get to placate their base, and the President gets to use the "Good cop, Bad cop" routine on the Iraqi leadership ("clean up your own house, b*tches")... It all just seems rather contrived.

To be honest, having gone to DC several times for business, and having rubbed elbows with folks in Government, I'd say that most of that cr*p is contrived..

3 posted on 05/02/2007 8:26:24 AM PDT by Paradox (Secular Conservative, thank God!)
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To: AU72

Well……..how about, if Bush had any cojones, he would start a “Bond Drive”. Like during WW 2 people bought U.S. bonds to help pay for the war effort. If the democrats won’t pay for it, I’m sure a lot of people would be willing to help out……. Wouldn’t that make the democrats / liberals look like the snakes they really are.


4 posted on 05/02/2007 8:34:00 AM PDT by koskenkorva
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To: koskenkorva

I don’t know how my response was posted as a reply to AU72. I was just making a comment on the article.


5 posted on 05/02/2007 8:37:34 AM PDT by koskenkorva
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To: SmithL

Another SFGate pantload. SHOULD read, “Soros-funded, American-hating, treasonous lunatic leftists showed little appetite for compromise Wednesday, hours ahead of a session aimed at funding our troops in Iraq...”


6 posted on 05/02/2007 8:44:10 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: SmithL

Bush may as well go talk to a post as talk to those idiots. They hate him and any compromising is beyond them.


7 posted on 05/02/2007 8:45:51 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: SmithL

A bill that actually does anything more than fund the troops will be vetoed, and the Dims will not be able to over-ride the veto. The President might let them throw in some non-binding language that’s in agreement with previously established administration goals, but that’s it.

So, what’s to compromise?


8 posted on 05/02/2007 8:57:40 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: SmithL

I thought that the Dems were going to jam the bill down the President’s throat???


9 posted on 05/02/2007 9:09:32 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Paradox
Both sides are benifiting here, the Dems get to placate their base,

An interesting thesis, but the dems can't placate their base by backing down, and they knew they'd have to back down.

10 posted on 05/02/2007 9:27:07 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: savedbygrace
A bill that actually does anything more than fund the troops will be vetoed, and the Dims will not be able to over-ride the veto. The President might let them throw in some non-binding language that’s in agreement with previously established administration goals, but that’s it. So, what’s to compromise?

The President is not going to get a "clean bill." If he continues to veto any bill except a "clean" one, he will not get the money for the troops, which is what the Dems want. The Dems will say that it is Bush who is blocking the money for the troops.

Bush will have to make some compromises if he wants to get the funds. It is just a matter of negotiating them so both sides can declare victory.

The Dems hold the better cards in this game of chicken.

11 posted on 05/02/2007 9:33:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I think that what I posted makes for a reasonable alternative bill. They can even call it a compromise if they want.

But I disagree that the Dims have the upper hand. President Bush is a Master Poker Player.


12 posted on 05/02/2007 10:19:48 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Paradox
Is it just me, or does anyone else have the feeling that this is something of a dog and pony show, from BOTH sides. Both sides are benifiting here, the Dems get to placate their base, and the President gets to use the "Good cop, Bad cop" routine on the Iraqi leadership ("clean up your own house, b*tches")... It all just seems rather contrived.

This is your corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" at its best.

13 posted on 05/02/2007 10:23:04 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: koskenkorva
Well……..how about, if Bush had any cojones, he would start a “Bond Drive”. Like during WW 2 people bought U.S. bonds to help pay for the war effort. If the democrats won’t pay for it, I’m sure a lot of people would be willing to help out……. Wouldn’t that make the democrats / liberals look like the snakes they really are.

I would support a Bond Drive in a heartbeat. Count on me to help in ANY way

14 posted on 05/02/2007 12:42:24 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: savedbygrace
But I disagree that the Dims have the upper hand. President Bush is a Master Poker Player.

If you don't hold the best hand, you have to know when to hold them and when to fold them. The Rep Congress forced Bill Clinton to sign the welfare reform bill after several vetos. Again, it is not a matter of if Bush will compromise, but when. It is the nature of those compromises that will make the difference.

I suspect that Bush will allow the pork to go thru, or at least most of it. He may also promise a quid pro quo for something else the Dems may want. Bush could increase his pressure for comprehensive immigration reform [aka as amnesty] to placate the Dems.

15 posted on 05/02/2007 1:28:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Paradox
To be honest, having gone to DC several times for business, and having rubbed elbows with folks in Government, I'd say that most of that cr*p is contrived..

If you live there for any length of time you really get a feel for the "inside the beltway" culture. In many ways, it truly is like another country/culture. The people that live there, not just the elected ones, honestly have very little understanding of those out here in the hinterlands.

16 posted on 05/02/2007 1:31:50 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: kabar

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Did you read or hear President Bush’s veto objections? He told the Dims the bill is unconstitutional. Unless they modify it to remove that objection, there’s nothing to compromise on that issue.


17 posted on 05/02/2007 2:06:21 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: kabar

I also agree with savinggrace, the president has made it clear that there can be no withdrawl date and like usurptions of presidental power. He’ll sign any amount of pork they want, but it cannot come with a surrender date, period.

It’s nice to see him hold firm on this.


18 posted on 05/02/2007 2:35:43 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: SmithL

Freep this POLL.

Do you support Bush’s veto of the Iraq spending bill?

http://www.nbc5.com/index.html

Scroll down right side of page.


19 posted on 05/02/2007 3:12:54 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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