Posted on 05/03/2007 7:12:17 AM PDT by Valin
Alabama Senator Richard Shelby doesn't mince words on Democrats not funding the troops, the Army banning mil-bloggers and George Tenet's new book.
HH: But first, we celebrate the fact that the Congress has failed to override the Presidents veto of the pork-laden attempt to micromanage the war into a date certain defeat. Im joined by Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama. Senator, good to have you on the program. Are you with me, Senator?
RS: Yeah, Im with you.
HH: Okay, good to talk with you there, sir. Senator Shelby, before we get to the future of this bill, youre on Senate Appropriations, George Tenets book, which I began reading yesterday, opens with a blast at you for bludgeoning Anthony Lake when he was nominated to be the CIA director in the 90s. Have you read Mr. Tenets book yet?
RS: Ive seen that part of it, and Im beginning to read it. I dont know if its worth the price that I paid for it. I might want to get my money back, but first of all, Mr. Tenet, that I know very well, he has mischaracterized the first part of the book, at least part of it, when he said that he met with me, and I asked him about Tony Lake. I was in Europe during that time, and I never met with him. I didnt even know him. I knew at one time that he worked for Senator Boren, and he was, may have been acting, but he never met with me, he never briefed me on any of that, and I would certainly have never asked him for anything regarding his superior. But I can tell you this, I did, and our staff did do a search job on the qualifications of Anthony Lake to be director of CIA, and he came up short, and he eventually withdrew. But it was ideological. You know, he was the guy that went on television, and he was asked on Meet the Press, Dr. Lake, do you believe Alger Hiss was guilty, and he hesitated. And that became an issue. And there was an ideological fight. We pulled out all the stops we could, and we blocked him. In retrospect, we should have blocked Tenet, too, but we didnt know that then.
HH: So in summary, like the account of his meeting Richard Perle on 9/12, his account of his meeting with you concerning Mr. Lake is made up out of whole cloth?
RS: Its a total falsehood. That is, now.
HH: That certainly puts
RS: The meeting with me now I met with Tenet many times after he became the director of CIA. I met with him when he was nominated. I used to go eat breakfast with him from time to time, until I found out that after the resumption of nuclear tests in 98, when I asked him what happened, and he said we didnt have a clue, I knew something was badly wrong at the CIA under his leadership, and I was probably the only one for years telling everybody that he ought to step down.
HH: Did President Bush make a mistake in retaining him, Senator?
RS: Oh, absolutely. Oh, goodness. Everybody knew that.
HH: And is the CIA still broken?
RS: I think theyre trying. I think theyre trying to break down a lot of these stovepipes. You have a new director of the CIA, you have a National Intelligence Czar, so to speak now. As a matter of fact, I was in meetings with him half the day. Im on the Defense Appropriations Committee, and we were going through a lot of that today. I think theyre making some progress, but theyre not there yet. You know, we have the best intelligence agencies in the world. We spend more money than anybody in the world. And theyre good. But we expect them to be better, and theyre going to have to be better in the future in this fight against terrorism.
HH: Well, lets turn to the future of the appropriations bill, Senator. Good news, the veto, didnt even come close to getting overridden.
RS: Oh, absolutely.
HH: Its all a charade.
RS: It was a 222 to override, and a 203 to sustain
HH: Correct.
RS: Oh, thats a message, ought to be a message that the Democrats should heed.
HH: Now what happens next? Can we get the money that the troops need to the troops without a bunch of pork?
RS: Thats an excellent question. I believe we will fund the troops. I believe theres got to be a number of Democrats that have got to be more than a little nervous about this, and the message that theyre sending to the troops. Im sure negotiations are going on, and will go on. Ultimately, this bill will come through our subcommittee on Defense Appropriations, and well have a look at it. But I think what we should do is send the message that were going to give our troops an opportunity to prevail over there, to bring some stability under a new commander, and with more troops going, and see what happens. I dont know whats going to be the outcome over there. Its getting late in the game. We had great military success four years ago. We have an asymmetrical threat there now, and weve got to deal with it. But lets say Thanksgiving, we better see if we made great progress. If we havent, well have to reassess it. But in the meantime, lets send the message to the troops were behind you, we think you can do the job, and were going to give you the means to do it.
HH: Did General Petraeus in his briefings impress you with his grasp
RS: Absolutely. I first met General Petraeus back in January when he was here, and had a private meeting with him, and a candid discussion. You know, hes a great soldier, hes also bright as he can bet, you know, well educated, has a PhD. But more than that, hes a man with experience on the ground there, and I think hes hopeful. I dont believe theres any exuberance as far as not realizing this is a dicey situation there. But remember this, Ive been telling people, we have never been defeated on the battleground over there, our troops. And if we send the message we dont believe you can succeed, and were not going to support you, were going to undermine our troops not only in Iraq, but in the future. We will do irreparable damage to our military.
HH: How do Harry Reids comments about having lost the war play in Alabama, Senator?
RS: Well, I think they play very dont play very well there at all, because we havent lost the war at all. And what will the decision, the political decision mean down the road? I dont know. But if we can, and I hope we can, give every effort to stabilize that area under a new commander, and with some more troops, we ought to give it every try. Weve got a lot involved there. But more than Iraq, I think you have to think of the military in the next where are we going to be in ten years? What kind of message does that send the troops who depend on our confidence and our faith in them? It sends a negative message.
HH: The story Im going to cover, the story Im going to cover a lot today, Senator Shelby, has to do with the troops. Youre on the Defense Appropriations, so Ill ask you. You obviously know about blogging, and how people use the internet.
RS: Sure.
HH: And how soldiers have been blogging from the front lines, and how its been very useful to keeping the public informed, et cetera. Today, the Army banned soldiers from blogging, just out and out banned them. What do you make of that?
RS: Oh, I dont believe I would have done that. I think as long as theyre not giving away positions, and stuff like that, Ive heard from a lot of our soldiers, and theyre very upbeat. You know, they say support the troops, that were doing well, and I believe them. I have some friends over there right now. I had one young man who is a Marine officer, and the head of a rifle company, as we speak, and I spoke to him, and Ive visited with his family and so forth, and hes very upbeat. And I think a lot of these troops have been. I think that well have to see what happens. But to undermine our troops is just something I wouldnt ever want to be a part of.
HH: Now I get e-mails from a colonel in Ramadi, and a colonel in Baghdad, theyre buddies of mine. I post them on my blog, and I want to continue to do that, because its first-hand information. Is that an appropriate subject for Defense Appropriations to look into?
RS: Well, I dont Im sure this will probably be brought up when we get into this, or we have a hearing on something thats relevant to this. But at the end of the day, I guess the commanders issued some order for some reasons unknown to me. I think if youve got good morale, which I believe they send the message back, we will do it.
HH: And so I hope you do support them getting their rights back
RS: Oh, I would. I think we ought to hear from the soldiers. We should not try to shut up our soldiers. Theyre in harms way, theyre carrying the brunt of this, and their families, and we should support them, and we should listen to them. But the ones Ive been listening to are upbeat.
HH: Thats why I want to keep the information flowing.
RS: I think its good.
HH: These blogs yeah, they paint a very different picture from what the media does. Last question, Senator Shelby. When do we get this money bill through Appropriations? When do you expect to have to be back there working? You guys have been, not you, but the Democrats have been taking their time.
RS: I think the Democrats will drag it along as long as they can politically, as long as they feel like they can get by with, but I would hope that its the 1st, 2nd day of May now, that we can do it as soon as we can. Otherwise, theyre going to have to reprogram some other programs, and thats not any way to run the Pentagon.
HH: Richard Shelby, Senator from Alabama
RS: Thank you a lot.
HH: Thank you, always a pleasure to talk to you.
End of interview.
It’s way past time for the GOP to “tell it like it is” and to confront Liberals who lie, distort, accuse, etc.. Meanwhile, Liberals scream foul play when anyone checks into Liberal dirt, e.g., the Clintoons who have a long list of dead associates. How about checking into Pelosi, Murtha, Kerry, Reid and the rest of the corrupt Dummyrats?
The looney Commie left is still preaching that Hiss is innocent, even after the FBI's Venona Files re-established his Guilt.
One of the best books ever written: Witness, by Whittaker Chambers.
William F Buckley asked Whittaker Chambers to be his partner when starting National Review Magazine. Chambers declined because he felt his reputation would damage the start-up magazine. Henry Luce (founder of TIME), paid all of Chambers's legal bills in those trials. Luce must be rolling in his grave at what TIME has become.
The looney Commie left is still preaching that Hiss is innocent, even after the FBI’s Venona Files re-established his Guilt.
Details Details Details! They can’t be bothered by these minor little details...And besides Bush lied and people died!
I’ve got two good senators (Jeff Sessions) is the other one, and one truly lousy congressman, Davis. However, even Davis is a vast improvement over the contemptible Earl Hilliard that he replaced.
I’m calling all three of them everyday on the immigration issue, and the hate crimes bill.
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