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Why Rudy is Striking Out (Excellent editorial on the demise of Rudy's candidacy)
Townhall.com ^ | May 13, 2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 05/13/2007 3:38:27 AM PDT by dschapin

Why Rudy is Striking Out... By Kevin McCullough Sunday, May 13, 2007

Mayor Rudy Giuliani intended to use the chance to address students and faculty at Houston Baptist University on Friday to boost his image and clarify his position - particularly on abortion. He also hoped to energize what is beginning to look like a campaign that is in complete meltdown.

Republican presidential hopeful and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani speaks to over 800 people gathered for a breakfast sponsored by The Tuscaloosa County Republican Party Wednesday, May 9 2007 at the Bryant Conference Center in Tuscaloosa, Ala. He failed on every level.

Coming out of the first Presidential Candidate debate he was established as the clear loser in many respects. His mumbling, stumbling, bumbling and shrugging of the shoulders on the simple question put to him on the issue of Roe v. Wade truly isolated him from the rest of the field.

He is also bending believability.

In his address at HBU on Friday he took more time than I had heard him use in the past to describe the "two pillars" of his thinking on the matter.

The first pillar is his supposed personal belief that abortion is "deeply, profoundly, and always morally wrong." He belabored the point by emphasizing that if he were to counsel someone personally, that he would always advise them against abortion and would encourage them to have the baby. Once born, if they were unable to care for it, he would encourage them to consider the adoption option.

His second pillar was his belief that our society "must always grant the woman" the "right to make the choice". He didn't really elaborate on the specifics of what they would be choosing, but we are to assume that the choices are somewhere between the "always morally right" decision to have a child, or the "always immoral" decision to kill one.

The Mayor continued by addressing the issue of partial birth abortion. He added that he felt it should have been kept legal to protect the life and health of the mother. Interestingly enough the American Medical Association has denounced this method of ever being medically necessary to "save a woman's life." And the word "health" could be interpreted as lightly as "mental health" which could be interpreted as lightly as "I just don't FEEL like having this baby" which you then realize is in fact a term that means nothing.

Giuliani also seemed to imply that he opposed federal funding for abortion as part of his "giving the woman the option."

He then pledge to work to limit abortions, put restrictions on them, and for added good measure he bragged that adoptions went up under his administration in New York by some 130%.

The problem was the entire pretense of Giuliani's position on abortion is a sham, at least the side of viewing it as "always morally wrong." Moments before he was to give the address in Houston, Fox News Channel's Carl Cameron did a cut-in with an exclusive discovery. Cameron had uncovered a National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) Survey that Giuliani had filed with them in running for office back in 1997. In the Mayor's own handwriting exists the proof that Giuliani opposed parental notification, and any limits on the always unnecessary procedure of partial-birth abortions. He also advocated more federal funding for abortions. He has also given multiple donations to the racist genocidal organization that was founded upon the desire of eliminating blacks - Planned Parenthood.

Discerning people don't even need the evidence of a NARAL survey to see through Giuliani's ineptitude on moral issues. His stated "pillars" tell us everything we need to know.

With the discovery last week that gender can now be identified in the unborn child only six weeks after conception, coupled with the increasing abilities to see a child survive to a healthy life outside the womb, earlier and earlier in the pregnancy, the issue of personhood continues to be Giuliani's downfall.

Since he was in Houston, let's use a local example.

Many remember Andrea Yates who systematically drowned her five children in her own bathtub. Certainly Mayor Giuliani would share our horror and condemn such actions as "always morally wrong." Surely he would have - had he been given the chance - to counsel Andrea to not go through with such a procedure. He would have attempted to convince her that it would be better for the child, and for her to give those children up for adoption. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have even called for police intervention had he been able to divine ahead of time her intent to murder her children.

But by using the Mayor's own logic and his "other pillar of thinking" he would have felt that it would have been equally important to "give her the option, to make the choice" to carry out her plan.

This is where Rudy's logic is so flawed that it defies explanation. And it is this confusion in the arena of moral clarity that calls into question his ability to be morally clear in his governing skills.

The problem with his two pillars is that even Rudy Giuliani doesn't fully believe them both. It is also obvious from his record which of the "two pillars" he believes, and which one he is now giving lip service to.

If he wished to disprove this and in fact attract genuine pro-life voters let me propose a specific tactic for his campaign. In his discussion of "compromise" and the need to hold to his "two pillars" how about this:

Propose sweeping legislation to ban all abortions with the exceptions of rape, incest, and the mother's life.

This compromise would eliminate roughly 98% of all abortions performed, and even though we truly pro-life types would still work to ban the remaining 2%, it would allow the "needed exceptions" that the Mayor espouses are "so important."

Rudy Giuliani is the most full throated pro-abortion Republican candidate for President in history. In all transparency he must be acknowledged as such.

Rudy's poll numbers are sagging in Iowa and New Hampshire, and without radical change in his thinking those trends will hold, and somewhere around South Carolina the Mighty Mayor will strike out.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; kevinmccullough; moralabsolutes; nomination; prolife; rudy
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To: Carry_Okie

Analyze all you want. This guy is no President.

Never was. Never will be.

He’s just proving it.


21 posted on 05/13/2007 6:46:51 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: CBart95
Analyze all you want. This guy is no President.

I've been holding Rudy accountable for his slippery BS from the beginning. What we need is a president with documented personal courage with which to stand up the leftist howling when any conservative policy choice is contemplated.

See tag line.

22 posted on 05/13/2007 6:55:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: dschapin

 

23 posted on 05/13/2007 6:57:33 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: All

What starts out as a legitimate rebuttal quickly devolves into delusions of Rudy approving of Andrea Yates drowning her children.

NEXT!


24 posted on 05/13/2007 6:57:35 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: TomGuy

Yep. May be one reason Romney (also not one of my top choices) is starting to gain.


25 posted on 05/13/2007 6:57:54 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: dschapin; Calpernia

It will be a very happy jig I do on this man’s political grave


26 posted on 05/13/2007 7:23:05 AM PDT by pissant
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To: imahawk

Zotted, for the most part.


27 posted on 05/13/2007 7:25:09 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Jim Robinson; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

“look past my position on abortion”

"Abortion is wrong personally, but I believe there has to be a right of choice"


28 posted on 05/13/2007 7:51:00 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Reform4Bush

Yes, I’m certain Rudy likes to smash pink, squirming baby mice with a hammer.


29 posted on 05/13/2007 7:53:27 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

If you haven’t seen Rudy on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, it’s must see TV when the show re-airs later today. Rudy’s performance can at best be described as vacillating..at worst..unprincipaled..


30 posted on 05/13/2007 7:56:39 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Calpernia
put restrictions on them, and for added good measure he bragged that adoptions went up under his administration in New York by some 130%.

??? - That percentage goes up every time he speaks! lol

31 posted on 05/13/2007 8:39:12 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: dschapin

It’s so nice to wake up to good news in the morning.


32 posted on 05/13/2007 8:42:14 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: All
Say what you will about Rudy on all other subjects - we all have a right to speak up; but what I heard today on Fox News Sunday about Rudy's mind set on the WOT was EXCELLENT. All other candidates please take note!

I have not decided on any one candidate, yet...my "dream team" is more of a fantasy team...Bauer (Jack) / Bolton (John) '08 ;-)

33 posted on 05/13/2007 8:52:45 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: Calpernia
Folks keep giving Rugy G the benefit of the doubt, saying his logic is flawed. Frankly, his answers make it clear that he is just lying when he states he is opposed or that he believes killing alive unborn human beings is morally wrong ... he doesn't think it is wrong for that particular female who wants to abort, and he is obviously not opposed to something he states should be kept legal.

Rudy Giuliani is a bold faced liar and people are getting tired of him, and it shows in his plummeting poll numbers, proving again that the American conservative voter is not the fool the democrats depend upon.

34 posted on 05/13/2007 9:22:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: sittnick

“So, the two Dem front-runners both got their positions due (at least in part) to Republican self-destruction.”

That is an interesting analysis and good point.


35 posted on 05/13/2007 10:39:59 AM PDT by baa39
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To: imahawk

They mostly got banned. I don’t missed their dodges and their insults a whit.


36 posted on 05/13/2007 10:43:47 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: TomGuy
Kerry thought his ‘I fought in Vietnam’ would carry him to the White House. ...... Rudy thinks his 'I dodged the draft' will carry him to the GOP nomination.
37 posted on 05/13/2007 10:49:46 AM PDT by malibu2008
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To: ken5050

Agreed, I just read the transcript of that interview and Giuliani got crushed. If anyone is interested you can read the transcript at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271917,00.html


38 posted on 05/13/2007 12:44:49 PM PDT by dschapin (Duncan Hunter: a true leader for President!!!)
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To: dschapin

I think he’s got to come out swinging this week in S Carolina to have any hope of resurrecting his campaign...BTW..I think Chris Wallace did a superb job in the interview..he was polite, yet firm, in forcing Rudy to address the issue..


39 posted on 05/13/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Yeah, I was really impressed with the questions that he asked.


40 posted on 05/13/2007 1:03:18 PM PDT by dschapin (Duncan Hunter: a true leader for President!!!)
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