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1 posted on 05/18/2007 9:07:00 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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“Dawkins is a scientist and passionate atheist who has produced a stunning, thoroughly researched and expertly executed work that flatly denies the existence of God and illustrates what a destructive force religion is.”

So he’s writing hate speach?


2 posted on 05/18/2007 9:08:48 AM PDT by driftdiver
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What gods did Stalin, Mao and the Khmer Rouge follow?


3 posted on 05/18/2007 9:11:23 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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What’s ironic is that atheism has killed more people in a century than Islam has in fourteen.


4 posted on 05/18/2007 9:12:26 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Run Fred RUN!)
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Before the sun becomes a red giant and consumes the inner planets, the Andromeda Galaxy will be here and will have collided with the Milky Way. Those who remain on earth at that time, if they care, will not see the band of light of the Milky Way as we see it now. They will see a roundish cluster of stars, about twice as many stars as the Milky Way by itself, and they will see it four times farther from the center as we are now. See spaceflightnow.com


6 posted on 05/18/2007 9:13:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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and here I thought money was the root of all evil


7 posted on 05/18/2007 9:16:01 AM PDT by 99Volts
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I haven’t seen the documentary or read Dawkins’ book. If I want to waste time, I can find other more enjoyable ways to do it. But I have heard him on interviews, and his basic take on religious believers is that they are stupid and deranged.

As God is my witness, that’s about all there is.

Same for Sam Harris.

Profound! Brilliant! Stunning!


8 posted on 05/18/2007 9:16:17 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Fred Thompson 2008)
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..that the idea of a divine creator belittles the elegant reality of the universe.

Simple logic tells one that the elegance of the universe argues very strongly in *favor* of an all powerful,divine Creator!

10 posted on 05/18/2007 9:17:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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What are answers to these three questions:

1. Where did the physical matter that comprises the Universe come from?

2. How far does it extend?

3. How long has it existed?

11 posted on 05/18/2007 9:17:51 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Compromise on your vote and you get a compromised government.)
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While we're on the subject however....check out the Headless Muffler Man in, of all places, Mecca, California!
13 posted on 05/18/2007 9:18:44 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Run Fred RUN!)
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” Atheism is, it seems, the new black. Dawkins’ offering will not simply be preaching to the converted but actually convert fence-sitters with truth and reason. “

At least he agrees that all “religions” are not created equal. I applaude that he can discern and take exception on to his conclusions.

Hope he’s not too successful in his proselytizing.


15 posted on 05/18/2007 9:19:08 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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Yes but, does Richard Dawkins actually exist ?

The Dawkins Delusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QERyh9YYEis

16 posted on 05/18/2007 9:20:35 AM PDT by be4everfree (We're on a mission from God)
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bump


18 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:36 AM PDT by VOA
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thoroughly researched and expertly executed work that flatly denies the existence of God

I guess this is not exactly a claim to "prove a negative" but it seems fairly close. And is therefore little more than mental masturbation. There's no point to the exercise, but it makes Dawkins feel good.

20 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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Let me hazard a guess regarding the main points:

1. God doesn’t play by my rules, therefore he does not exist.

2. Any belief system subscribed to by people who do bad things, in the name of it or not, must be false (bye bye U.s. Constitution).

3. Evolution is a fact, but man is the end-all, be-all of intellectual existence in the universe. Any rational entity deemed to be infinite (like those impersonal time and space thingees) is an affront to our self-esteem and must be false.

4. The fact that diverse cultures cannot agree on the nature and preferences of said entity is proof that one does not exist. In furtherance of this argument, it should be proposed that no student ever be marked down on any test question to which the teacher receives anything but a unanimous answer from his/her test subjects, as the lack of such a concensus clearly demonstrates that no single correct answer exists.

5. People who believe in such a being are simple-minded dupes in need of such a belief to sustain themselves. Examples of such simpletons include Dostoyevsky, C.S. Lewis, Solzhenitsyn, and multiple doctorate holder in physical sciences A.E. Wilder-Smith. Also included would be those mentally deficient folks who set out to disprove things such as Christ’s resurrection (Frank Morison) or Christianity in general (Josh McDowell), but strayed into belief somewhere in the midst of the evidences they were compiling.


22 posted on 05/18/2007 9:23:49 AM PDT by william clark (DH4WH08 - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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Either you believe that chance created everything or you believe that the Creator did.

Either was it is an unprovable belief. I’d rather put my faith in a creator than chance and a huge cosmic mistake.

Dawkins is free to believe whatever he wants to believe. More power to him. But I don’t have to elect him President of the United States either.


26 posted on 05/18/2007 9:25:58 AM PDT by colorcountry ("You step in crap once and spend the rest of your life scraping it off.")
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Richard Dawkins, you`re so f*****g stupid it`s not

even funny.

So all of the Apostles,except John, suffered extremely

violent deaths for a lie !? Bartholomew was flayed alive,

Mark torn to pieces, Paul beheaded torn to pieces in the

the arena, etc.

So if Jesus lied and was not resurrected why die a

horrific death for it? All the apostles had to do was

say, “Hey wait ! I recant, it`s all a lie.”

Any man who was trying to perpetuate a con would

confess to avoid death.

But they didn`t because it is true.

So f**k you Dawkins :-)


28 posted on 05/18/2007 9:26:40 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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"atheism is life-affirming in a way religion can never be"

Just not eternal-life affirming.

I'm not saying Dawkins is wrong; he just left out this aspect that
does seem to be very crucial to practitioners of the Christian faith.
33 posted on 05/18/2007 9:29:59 AM PDT by VOA
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Atheists will watch this show and feel as if they have died and gone to heaven

Gone where?? Shouldn't this read "... feel as if they have died and gone to a place which doesn't exist and whose existence only deranged, stupid people could accept" ... ? And why would an atheist want to go to heaven, exactly?

as they see a bloke far more smarterer than themselves poke that animal in the cage.

"bloke far smarterer" ... ah, that vaunted atheist intellect again.

37 posted on 05/18/2007 9:31:27 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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The fool has said in his heart there is NO God..
-OR- Al Gore is smart..
42 posted on 05/18/2007 9:32:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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On Sunday night, if you listen carefully, you'll hear atheists all over Australia leaning back in their chairs, putting their feet on the coffee table and saying, "I'm with him." And I'll be one of them.

Only a fool saith in his heart there is no God.

45 posted on 05/18/2007 9:33:32 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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