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US compromise on immigration heads into rough waters
Yahoo! News/Agence France Press ^ | May 18, 2007 | Antonio Rodriguez

Posted on 05/18/2007 1:58:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A landmark compromise on the thorny issue of immigration came under scrutiny in Congress Friday as some Republicans slammed the plan as a blanket amnesty and some Democrats argued it did not go far enough.

"The agreement as it stands is hopeless. It is a framework that still has to be fleshed out," said Vanessa Cardenas of the Center for American Progress, after US lawmakers late Thursday struck a deal with the White House on sweeping immigration reform that could allow 12 million illegal immigrants to legalize their status.

The pact, announced by a group of Democratic and Republican senators, would provide a path to permanent residency and citizenship for the vast majority of illegal workers, establish a merit-based points system for future immigrants, and set up a low-wage temporary worker program.

It also would also provide 18,000 more Border Patrol agents, and scores of radar and camera towers on the US border with Mexico.

The deal could hand President George W. Bush one of the few successes in Congress of his second term in office; in the Senate Monday, 60 of 100 members were expected to give a procedural green light for the bill to be debated.

"I look forward to signing this legislation as soon as I can," Bush said on Friday.

Debate will get under way, a legislative source said, but stressed that was no guarantee about terms set out in the deal.

Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid, who has said he would like to improve the deal with amendments, gave colleagues until next weekend to approve a reform plan apparently in a bid to keep the immigration issue from becoming a focus of campaigning ahead of next year's presidential vote.

Conservative Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney jumped on the issue, saying he was strongly opposed to the deal. But Democrat Hillary Clinton said only that she would analyze the deal carefully -- not if she supported it.

With critics on both sides, Democrat Ted Kennedy and Republican Jon Kyl face an uphill battle for their bill despite being backed by Bush.

"I voted for amnesty in 1986 and learned that illegality only promotes illegality. So I won't repeat the mistake," said Republican Senator Chuck Grassley, referring to a prior effort to allow people in the United States illegally to normalize their status.

Democrat Bob Menendez did not sign on either, despite the fact he was one of his party's lead negotiators on the case in recent weeks.

"I could not sign on to the agreement announced in principle because it tears families apart, says to many that they are only good enough to work here, but not good enough to stay," said Menendez.

Some Democrats have asked for reforms that would allow separated family members to be reunited, and a way for future participants in a temporary workers' program to seek permanent residency, ideas not in the current plan.

Lawmakers and the White House will have to narrow the divide over the details in a few months if they hope to give Bush a deal he can sign before year's end.

The Senate's final version of the deal, once approved, must be debated in the House of Representatives, where the Democrats hold sway. If it is revised a committee must iron out differences between the competing versions, and then put the result before both houses.

Last year immigration reform got bogged down in committee, amid opposition from conservative Republicans, and Cardenas warmed that could happen again.

"Anti-immigrant groups have a strong base that takes action, and politicians listen to them," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; democrats; doingjobswewontdo; georgebush; gop; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; jonkyl; mexicans; nomoreborders; republicans; tedkennedy; votethebumsout
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This will kill the GOP, IMHO.
1 posted on 05/18/2007 1:58:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The deal could hand President George W. Bush one of the few successes in Congress of his second term in office

I would prefer that Bush spend the rest of his term on vacation than hand us "successes" like this.

2 posted on 05/18/2007 2:00:35 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One “insider” just let slip with a number of over 2.5 million emails/faxes/letters/calls in the first 24 hours from real Americans against this monstrous scam/sham/amnesty
3 posted on 05/18/2007 2:00:49 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

That’s not enough yet.


4 posted on 05/18/2007 2:03:45 PM PDT by rusty millet
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To: xcamel

Kill the thing.


5 posted on 05/18/2007 2:03:49 PM PDT by Dog (May 17, 2007 the day I became an INDEPENDENT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This will kill the GOP, IMHO.

At this point I'm not so sure that isn't the goal.
6 posted on 05/18/2007 2:04:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A landmark compromise”

It’s not a compromise. It’s additions to current law with amnesty and new and additional worker programs.

This was posted at NRs “The Corner”

“Top Democratic leaders and activists see Hispanic migration as a long-term opportunity for the party. The arrival of additional immigrant workers is “bad for blue-collars,” Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, told National Journal late last year. But immigrants can help elect Democratic majorities, and “if [a Democratic Congress] were to significantly strengthen unions, then you would offset the negative effect on the income of workers,” he said. (”Immigration Economics,” National Journal, May 12, 2007)”

Evidence of Democratic separation from the people. Frank here notes there will be wage depression...then mollifies himself with some promise of some uncertain thing to help “unions”... as if that will do anything to cause the problem, increased immigration, in the first place.

Shows the Dems are just as alienated from the people as Repubicans — utterly disingenuous or self-delusional.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 2:04:29 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they are going to give illegals amnesty, we need to invite 10 million Poles to visit. That would make the Dims do back flips.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 2:05:18 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It also would also provide 18,000 more Border Patrol agents, and scores of radar and camera towers on the US border with Mexico”

It will NEVER happen.


9 posted on 05/18/2007 2:05:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: rusty millet

It got someones attention...if 2.5 million called...it means there is triple that out there seething. I would argue that that the 2.5 million were the lucky ones to get thru.


10 posted on 05/18/2007 2:05:39 PM PDT by Dog (May 17, 2007 the day I became an INDEPENDENT!)
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To: cripplecreek

It was also said that LULAC wrote most of the bill, while Dead Kennedy slept off another drunk.


11 posted on 05/18/2007 2:06:35 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Cementjungle

Can’t he spend more time on golf, ala Eisenhower?


12 posted on 05/18/2007 2:06:45 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: xcamel

The real Sam Adams could do something about this. I however am powerless and am in deep shock that our “leaders” have the ability to kill the American spirit with the stroke of pen. The American experiment, ended from within with a whimper I guess..??.

These treasounous bastards!

I dont think there is a greater fight and I’m not even in the game.

Any words of wisdom from my dearest Freepers?

Someone..please...MAKE THE CALL!


13 posted on 05/18/2007 2:07:50 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"This will kill the GOP,"

The GOP has been undergoing a slow death for nearly 20 years
4 years of Bush I, followed by 8 years of Clinton I, followed by 6 years of Bush II was more that the party could survive......

The corpse of the party has recently started to smell very badly.....

14 posted on 05/18/2007 2:10:16 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: samadams2000
It is better that Pres. Bush be impeached, convicted and removed
than sign this abomination ending America.
15 posted on 05/18/2007 2:11:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes. This is not an appropriations bill. It DOES NOT PROVIDE one, single additional Border Patrol agent. Nor does it provide scores of radar and camera towers. This kind of non-appropriations bill is saying, in effect, “Gee, wouldn’t it be nice if we had 18,000 more BP agents and some radar and camera towers? If, sometime down the road Congress decides to do that, it’s fine with us.”


16 posted on 05/18/2007 2:13:04 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: Dog

2.5 million called ....

The other 190 million are breaking out the pitchforks


17 posted on 05/18/2007 2:13:48 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The next time a congress critter refers to an illegal alien in the U.S. as an “undocumented immigrant” — ask the bastard if he refers to a drug dealer on the streets as an “unlicensed pharmacist”
18 posted on 05/18/2007 2:14:10 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: 3AngelaD

The lying, traitorous, SOB’s !!


19 posted on 05/18/2007 2:15:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: cripplecreek

>>This will kill the GOP, IMHO.

At this point I’m not so sure that isn’t the goal.<<

That’s what I was thinking. This could torpedo Giuliani’s run, and Hillary might figure she could easily beat the others.


20 posted on 05/18/2007 2:15:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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