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There is a book (now available in paperback ):

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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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And reviews:

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Editorial Reviews

Rich Lowry, Editor National Review

David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle

An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006

Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews

A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.

The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,

Leftists radicals truly believe the ends justify the means.

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Your statement makes no sense, politically, socially, or morally.

The US could very easily win the Iraq reconstuction. Unfortunately, we’re allowing what happened in Vietnam to happen again. And 30 some years later, we’re more ‘wussy’ than we were then. We’re allowing a minority, a very vocal minority to control the media and our government.

You said we’re allowing our enemies to recruit. This is true since we’re allowing the fantasy of Islam being a religion of peace to continue, everyone is too afraid to call it was it is. The US is actually helping them in every way and we’re too PC to call it what it is. Outside of that, anyone with any knowledge of history and the many wars fought, knows the only way to win a war is to fight to win. We have too many emotions playing into this war as we did with Vietnam. If we’re fighting a war, we fight to win, bottom line. And it’s not a pleasant thing. If we allowed this thought or this wussiness to guide us during WWII, we’d be in a very different place right now.

This country, our military, doesn’t even need to have ground troops to fight or win a war. The problem is we’re still too nice, too compassionate, when the entire world has changed. We could end much of this, especially the situation in Iraq, if we fought a real war. This country has the best military, the best technology. Our problem is we have compassion and idealism. I think those two are wonderful things to have but it’s not going to win us this war. We have a people who aren’t willing to sacrifice, at least not yet, to protect our freedom/way of life. It’s way different than the mindset during WWII. IMO.

You mention propaganda and the only propaganda I see that is affecting the people of this country is that of the MSM/leftists, who want us to lose for some reason.

We aren’t causing nor have we caused a civil war in Iraq. The arab world did that themselves and our politicans and media perpetuate it all. Our politicians don’t care about Americans, that’s something I’m becoming more sure of daily. They don’t really care about this country or our way of life.

The US can’t surrender. Ever. I know people exist, in middle America mostly, who won’t take this lying down. I’m counting on them. Unfortunately, the east coast and west coast fell years ago. The media doesn’t care at all (they will when their amendment rights are eventually infringed upon).

I respectfully suggest you research middle eastern/arab history with a special emphasis on Islam. And of course all the cultural info. It will open your eyes immensely.

If we don’t win this, Iraq will be taken over by Iran and Syria. They’re hoping we give up.

On a personal level, I don’t give a damn about what goes on in the ME or anywhere else as long as it doesn’t affect my life here. But it is affecting my life. Illegals are affecting my life at the most base level. Islam is affecting my existence. Muslims, too.

I wouldn’t mind us pulling out everywhere all over the world and bringing all our military home. Closing our borders to everyone, with our military enforcing it. Letting the other countries, even our allies, fend for themselves. Protecting our country and its people. And in a few years when the rest of the world falls, which it will, fixing it, like we would.

All of this assumes we’d not allow the leftists to completely destroy our society, which they’re trying to do and they’re succeeding a little bit at a time. We already have the leftist agenda or the political agenda in our tax paying funded schools. We already have the MSM siding with a political agenda in education, business and private sector and now infringing on our churches and homes (hate crimes for not following the mindset of perverts and loons).

Again, I suggest you research Arab culture/Islam/the ME. Even if we win in Iraq, we have a dozen other countries to fight in that region, and we have to fight the archaic mindset of millions of people. Then there’s the whole “Palestinian question” ha. Bush was right about one thing, the WOT is going to be a long war.

Same response. Your feelings are not facts. Your ignorance about Iraq is simply inexcusable. Try learning some things instead of simply screaming your emotion based dogmas over and over and over.

Start here. The bulk of the fighting in the War on Terror is Muslims killing terrorists for us. YOU Neo Isolationist idiots would run away from our allies driving them into our the hands of our enemies. That would be a truly stupid strategy on our part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Iraq

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx

Then instead of clining to your ignorance in the face of all factual reality, FINALLY learn something about Iraq.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840179/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840124/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839986/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839944/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839651/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838632/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838583/posts

Why Iraq

One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the “Anti War movement”) of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US’s National “News” media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.

Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.

To start with Saddam’s Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it’s diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it’s military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.

The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.

Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The “Holy” soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.

There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect” to understand. It’s so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like “No Blood for Oil” or “We support the Troops, bring them home” or dumbest of all “We are creating terrorists” then to actually THINK.

Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their “god” will reward them for killing us.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.

Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming “We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad” and recruit the next round of “holy warriors”. Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Winston Churchill