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I was checking Powerline yesterday and was shocked to run into this post by John Hinderaker. Apparently, the Giuliani campaign posted an article on their section of Powerline's candidate forumn claiming that they are now winning over the social conservatives. These claims are very debious but the majority of the comments to the article on the forum were supportive of Giuliani with only a small number of dissenters like myself. We really need some good FReepers to go the forumn and bring some reality to this thread - Powerline is way too important to abandon to the Rudybots. Please go to the Powerline candidate forumn at http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/18858/ and let them no that true social conservatives will never support Giuliani for President.
1 posted on 06/01/2007 4:54:18 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: dschapin
Read and Weep (Can Giuliani Win Over Social Conservatives?)

No.

2 posted on 06/01/2007 4:55:45 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Tom Tancredo for President 2008)
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Yada, yada, yada. Let’s at least try to get serious. This constant sales pitch is dead in the water.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 4:55:56 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: dschapin
"claims are very debious"

Is that dubious + devious? :)

4 posted on 06/01/2007 4:58:41 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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Look at the Polls, lot`sa folks like Rudy and, judging from a previous posted article., McNut is leading in South Carolina.
I think a common error is to forget we are not stopping abortions, for example, we are instead electing a President.


9 posted on 06/01/2007 5:04:21 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: dschapin

To answer the title question: NO.

Next....


18 posted on 06/01/2007 5:18:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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It’s better to win and see 33% of your values impact policy, than lose and see 5% of your values impact policy.


25 posted on 06/01/2007 5:38:39 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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The only people reading such a thread are his own supporters. It is an echo chamber. Nobody on the right believes Rudy is a serious contender for the nomination, and if he gets it the right will stay home in droves and the Dem will win. It is suicide, more of the "run left as fast as you can" suicide the press is advising for the Republican party.
42 posted on 06/02/2007 1:27:32 PM PDT by JasonC
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These claims are very debious...

Did you mean "devious" or "dubious"?
51 posted on 06/02/2007 9:03:52 PM PDT by no dems ( Dear God, how much longer are you going to let Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd live?)
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Actually, I might be able to handle a Rudy candidacy depending on how he structured his platform. His *belief* in socially conservative values is not as necssary as his committment to keep his beliefs to himself. If he shows any evidence of intent to be a pro-choice crusador, for instance. I think it's quite possible that someone in power who is pro-choice would not make it any kind of a centerpiece of an administration. In the same vein, I'm able to vote for a homosexual candidate in my belief that homosexual activism is not necessarily part of his agenda.

I know he's been pro-abortion in NYC. But that's when he had a rabidly pro-abortion constituency.

Pro-lifers have made quite a lot of progress without defeating Roe. Roe is rather a symbol.

That said, I've got a pile of worries about Rudy. I don't want the next GOP nominee to be a neocon.

57 posted on 06/03/2007 9:10:55 AM PDT by Mamzelle ("Mr. Elite Pro-Amnesty Republican--Has your family ever employed illegal labor?")
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