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California advances bill to sterilize pets
CNN.com/Reuters ^

Posted on 06/09/2007 6:57:50 AM PDT by ReignOfError

SAN FRANCISCO, California (Reuters) -- California may become the only U.S. state to require the sterilization of pets under a bill passed by the state Assembly, pitting dog and cat lovers against animal rights activists.

"It's a horrific bill," said Maureen Hill-Hauch, executive director of Castleton, New York-based American Dog Owners Association, adding that enforcement of the bill in theory could wipe out California's dog population.

The bill would require pet owners to spay and neuter their dogs and cats, or face a $500 fine for each animal.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: neuter; peta; pets; spay
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While I believe that all pets should be spayed or neutered, I don't see how this law could possibly enforceable or could possibly avoid being intrusive. Requiring this of people who sell pets is one thing, but I don't see how you could enforce this without having state agents running around groping dogs.

Rhode Island adopted a similar law last month (link is to FR thread).

1 posted on 06/09/2007 6:57:50 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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What’s next in California? Spaying and neutering our children?


2 posted on 06/09/2007 7:04:52 AM PDT by Paperdoll
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how you could enforce this without having state agents running around groping dogs.

I can assure you they will only grope my dog once.

Well maybe twice if they want to lose their other hand too.

3 posted on 06/09/2007 7:05:09 AM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: ReignOfError

You’ve gotta love California.

What they say about it, still holds.


4 posted on 06/09/2007 7:06:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ReignOfError

I’d support spaying and neutering our state legislature. At least the Dems, anyway.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 7:06:41 AM PDT by RichInOC (The California State Legislature: Poster children for the Seventeenth Amendment.)
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Spaying and neutering our children?

I think it's past time we spayed and neutered "state agents", and "animal rights activists".

6 posted on 06/09/2007 7:09:24 AM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: ReignOfError
I was once reprimanded by someone here in FR because I used the word 'Kalifornicatia'.

California is obsessed with sex ... every form and way imaginable, and every means to destroy the function of sex, as a means of reproducing humans.

Cali Freepers excepted .... it's Kalifornicatia henceforth.

7 posted on 06/09/2007 7:11:38 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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And the march to becoming a complete socialist nanny state continues.
8 posted on 06/09/2007 7:13:54 AM PDT by Reagan is King (u)
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pitting dog and cat lovers against animal rights activists.

All sarcasm aside, are these "animal rights" activists insane?

What sane person believes that it is a right to be forcibly sterilized?

Jesus Christ, they sound like the Chinese of prior days. - when they come for your children will they wrap it in "HUMAN RIGHTS" doublespeak??

Orwell is spinning!

9 posted on 06/09/2007 7:14:57 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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This weird for me, but i actually would support a tax payer funded program. Free on the spot at the vet.

I have 5-10 dogs/cats wonder up a year that someone has thrown out on the road. It is awful to take them to the shelter, but there is no way we can afford the bills and food necessary to feed them, nor do we have the room.

I think there is a program for the elderly to get a voucher to pay most of the cost for their pet, but it requires them to personally go into the big city to get the voucher.


10 posted on 06/09/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by cmet
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Mayde they should spay or neuter illegal aliens.


11 posted on 06/09/2007 7:20:26 AM PDT by stbdside
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No, the legislature first. Illegals at least occasionally do useful work. I’m not sure I can say that for the lege.


12 posted on 06/09/2007 7:22:31 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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What’s next in California? Spaying and neutering our children?

How about our legislators?

13 posted on 06/09/2007 7:28:58 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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California is obsessed with sex ...

Yes, but. I live in Hollywood, have for three years now... and this town is the most sexless, sterile place I have ever been. I've lived all over the country, from the midwest, to the south, to the East Coast.

Los Angeles is not sexy. Everyone looks great and dresses hot, but there's a hopeless, why-even-bother vibe in the air. People meet and flirt, and then drift away from each other often before they even get around to the sex part. It's like they head out each night intending to get laid, but get distracted by the booze and blow, and by 4am are too wasted to "lay" anyone.

Yesterday on Sunset Blvd down by Red Rock I saw seven nearly identical blondes in sunglasses walking along in their tank tops, and guys posing in convertables check them out as they go by, but everyone seems more interested in being seen than making any kind of connection, unless of course you are a producer with a good track record of getting money from studios. It's a weird, weird place. It's like Logun's Run except they've upped the age of renewal to 55.

14 posted on 06/09/2007 7:35:32 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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It now goes to the state Senate amid a flurry of legislation that must be passed by Friday.

Meaning it will probably be rubber-stamped.

15 posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:03 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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NJ has this in its Animal Welfare Task Force appointed by our exgovernor McGreevey.

It is enforceable because the SPCA acquires the pet registration list. Registered pets are listed as sterilized or not.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280305/posts
Animal task force shows claws

I have added posts at that thread on how empowered the SPCA is and reference to the animal task force information too.


16 posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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We (Los Angeles, at least) already face a penalty for not spaying/neutering. The annual fee to licence a spayed/neutered dog is $10, unspayed/un-neutered, $100.


17 posted on 06/09/2007 7:39:53 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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Instead of spaying dogs and cats, we should encourage more breeding.

This is a golden opportunity!

By selling our surplus pets to China and Korea were there are significant meat shortages, we can alleviate our trade balance while solving our dog and cat overpopulation problem! /sarcasm

18 posted on 06/09/2007 7:39:55 AM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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This weird for me, but i actually would support a tax payer funded program. Free on the spot at the vet.

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I think there is a program for the elderly to get a voucher to pay most of the cost for their pet, but it requires them to personally go into the big city to get the voucher.

It varies from place to place, and sometimes can be done by mail, but you have to demonstrate low income, send documents, and so on. It's like a welfare program.

Some shelters offer low-cost sterilization periodically, like one weekend a month. The vets volunteer, and either bring their own supplies or have supplies paid for by donors. Even without government involvement, those efforts could be better publicized and more vets could be nagged into volunteering.

I would have no problem with a taxpayer-funded program to make spaying or neutering free or inexpensive to the pet owner, because it brings down the population of strays in the long run, it's far cheaper than rounding up strays and killing them.

19 posted on 06/09/2007 7:42:25 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Paperdoll

Dont give them any ideas................


20 posted on 06/09/2007 7:46:31 AM PDT by Phyllo
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